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A Question for Tory Supporters
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There are people all the way along the spectrum.
Some of us are not that obsessed about Corbyn and are more worried about brexit and climate change.
Yes he does divide people and labour would be infinitely better off if they made Keir Starmer leader.
Just imagine, Boris calls an election, Labour back him, Corbyn steps down and Keir Starmer takes over'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
SpiderLegs wrote: »It’s certainly a tough call.
What it would really take is for the labour to not be controlled by anti-Semitic terrorist-sympathising Marxists.
Sort that out and then there’s an actual decision to be made.
There is a certain type of person who is a spineless, greedy, lazy, entitled, angry, hate-fuelled, racist, morally incompetent, abject degenerate. It follows there's an electoral franchise for a party to pander to such for votes. This has always been the Labour Party's electoral niche: their core vote is the lowest scum of the earth (the rest of their support comes from arrogantly sanctimonious virtue signallers).
They are a basically Satanic organisation devoted to spinning shameful vices - sloth, envy, greed - into virtues for electoral advantage.
One sensed in some former Labour leaders that they were properly ashamed of their disgusting base: Callaghan, Blair, and so on. Corbyn literally personifies it, and unlike previous Labour regimes, that were merely spiteful and malignant, is actually thoroughly evil to the bone as well, without one single redeeming characteristic.0 -
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Thrugelmir wrote: »Perhaps the European Parliament not moving every six months between Brussels and Strasbourg would be a start for the EU to reduce it's carbon footprint.
Maybe they should all take £1M yachts, apparently they are carbon free.0 -
Tory voters love to rant about Labour but at the end of the day the Tories have been in power for nearly a decade and the result is a society in complete ruins, wages lower than they were at the start and a decimated pound, all while the wealth of the rich is at record levels.
They have been the by far the worst British government in the post-world war era. They go down as the worst current developed country government in the world, and one of the worst British governments of all time. They have been a total, unmitigated disaster on almost every conceivable level. The history books will judge them as the government that ended Britain's status as a leading country.0 -
westernpromise wrote: »This. When the Labour party elected a racist, Jew-hating supporter of terrorists, a sympathiser with Chinese communist murderers who won't on loony principle sit down with the president of the USA, and someone whose motivations consist entirely of hatred, then they made it absolutely safe for the Conservatives to go as far the other way as they liked. Nobody could possibly be more evil, bloodstained, morally competent and malign than Corbyn. It is simply not possible. He is the most evil man in the country. Gary Glitter would win an election against him.
There is a certain type of person who is a spineless, greedy, lazy, entitled, angry, hate-fuelled, racist, morally incompetent, abject degenerate. It follows there's an electoral franchise for a party to pander to such for votes. This has always been the Labour Party's electoral niche: their core vote is the lowest scum of the earth (the rest of their support comes from arrogantly sanctimonious virtue signallers).
They are a basically Satanic organisation devoted to spinning shameful vices - sloth, envy, greed - into virtues for electoral advantage.
One sensed in some former Labour leaders that they were properly ashamed of their disgusting base: Callaghan, Blair, and so on. Corbyn literally personifies it, and unlike previous Labour regimes, that were merely spiteful and malignant, is actually thoroughly evil to the bone as well, without one single redeeming characteristic.
Are you the political editor of the Daily Mail? Absolutely laughable diatribe of !!!!!!!!. :rotfl:0 -
I think we've been long stuck in a rut of voting against the other guys. Whilst Corbyn is the antichrist who'll confiscate everything any honest workers ever earned, they'd never vote anything but Tory. Even if the PM was literally Hitlers corpse.
I'm not sure you'll ever see a clear answer to this, just as there's never an answer to "What needs to happen for you to agree Brexit was a bad idea?"
I remember seeing a quote one saying that everyone is against the lazy taking unearned wealth from everyone else who works hard. The difference being the right believes the poor are the lazy ones and the left believes the rich are the lazy ones. Curiously, the money being spent on benefits (to the poor) is nothing compared to money lost from tax evasion (the rich), but each to their own.
That's very true. But many poor people vote Tory. In direct contravention of their interests. So called "strivers", middle income battlers. Pensioners. Anyone with their kids in a state school, who needs the NHS, or uses public transport, is measurably worse off under the Tories. Yet they keep voting for them.
Apparently because they're terrified some tax avoiding billionaires might have to pay their tax.
I don't really get it. Is it just stupidity or is there some benefit to being a Tory that isn't otherwise apparent?
In other news, Boris Johnson's brother has just left the Tories. The Conservative Prime Minister's brother can't stand being a Conservative anymore.0 -
Thrugelmir wrote: »Perhaps the European Parliament not moving every six months between Brussels and Strasbourg would be a start for the EU to reduce it's carbon footprint.
They move every four weeks from Strasbourg to Brussels and return after four days. Madness. No wonder Leave won the referendum.0 -
Tory voters love to rant about Labour but at the end of the day the Tories have been in power for nearly a decade and the result is a society in complete ruins, wages lower than they were at the start and a decimated pound, all while the wealth of the rich is at record levels.
They have been the by far the worst British government in the post-world war era. They go down as the worst current developed country government in the world, and one of the worst British governments of all time. They have been a total, unmitigated disaster on almost every conceivable level. The history books will judge them as the government that ended Britain's status as a leading country.
Get a grip! None of this is verifiable by facts and no, quoting the Guardian does not count as facts.0 -
Tory voters love to rant about Labour but at the end of the day the Tories have been in power for nearly a decade and the result is a society in complete ruins, wages lower than they were at the start and a decimated pound, all while the wealth of the rich is at record levels.
They have been the by far the worst British government in the post-world war era. They go down as the worst current developed country government in the world, and one of the worst British governments of all time. They have been a total, unmitigated disaster on almost every conceivable level. The history books will judge them as the government that ended Britain's status as a leading country.0
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