No deal Brexit or Corbyn government?

Fred.Y

either way we will be left with a government with no majority and the same broken system that got us in the mess in the first place...

that said, anything would be better than COrbyn (read his bio a dangerous leader) as theres a lot people don't know about him (he's not moderate at all...)

Sailtheworld

Conina wrote: »

Again ridiculous unless you really haven't noticed that it's the opposition that have been dictating in parliament for quite a while, even setting the Brexit agenda.

You seem to be having a problem with comprehension.

I'm not suggesting for a minute that the opposition shouldn't be scrutinised but that it's to be expected that government be subjected to more scrutiny.

I doubt, for reasons of balance, you don't divide your time equally into scrutinising each of 600 odd MPs. That would be a massive waste of time and evidence you are unable to prioritise.

Sailtheworld

Conina wrote: »

Newtons Third Law. It takes two to Tango you know, you couldn't have your hated Tories causing what you think of as a "shambles" or have your " wider discontent" without an opposing set of possibilities.

Newton's third law has nothing to do with the Tango or brexit. The 'wider discontent' isn't mine - it's Thrug's - ask him what it is but don't expect an answer.

I think we're living the dream.

Cakeguts

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/16/momentum-urges-labour-to-adopt-radical-pledges-in-next-manifesto



The word here is influence. They aren't elected they don't have the right to influence the Labour leader. The can suggest instead.

phillw

Cakeguts wrote: »

The word here is influence. They aren't elected they don't have the right to influence the Labour leader. The can suggest instead.

So like Dominic Cummings?

You'll have to explain what the difference is between influence and people listening to suggestions.

Blue_Doggy

[QUOTE=Pete Zaluver;76263014
There was a post earlier asking for one good reason why we could not import medicines from where we want to; so far I note there is not a single answer.
Presumably then we can import medicines from where we want, without reliance upon the EU.[/QUOTE]

I rather think we would need a trade deal to import drugs on a regular basis. We’d need to agree how much we were willing to pay, and how satisfied we were with the quality of drugs being supplied. For example, the cost of certain drugs in the USA is many times the current cost in the UK.

Blue_Doggy

Pete_Zaluver wrote: »

No, there is absolutely no need to have a trade deal in place for any regular import as a huge amount of our current non-EU-related trade already shows.
That's not to say that a deal may or may not be advantageous, just that one is not a necessity.
The bit about price is obvious but the quality is determined in a number of ways which need not be delved-into here; suffice it to say that quality is certainly not a problem.
There are many other countries from which to buy drugs than the USA you know and their often-higher prices is the result of their own policies, not global influence.
Japan for example may be a good source with their prices generally lower than reference countries.

Most if not all of our trade with non-EU countries is done through trade deals we have as a member of the EU. This is why Liam Fox has been trying to “roll over” the deals. We’ll need to set up new bilateral trade deals if they can’t be rolled over, and this can only be done after we have left the EU, including with Japan.

Quality, as you say, is determined in many ways: we want to be certain that the drugs we import match our requirements.

Herzlos

Fred.Y wrote: »

that said, anything would be better than COrbyn (read his bio a dangerous leader) as theres a lot people don't know about him (he's not moderate at all...)

What makes him so dangerous that he's a worse option than food/medicine/energy/fuel shortages?

phillw

Blue_Doggy wrote: »

Quality, as you say, is determined in many ways: we want to be certain that the drugs we import match our requirements.

Free of the meddling EU we can import drugs without such trifling red tape

When our brave soldiers were fighting in the second world war, they didn't worry about drug trials, labeling or ensuring quality.

Why are you such a traitor?

Triple_Zero

Blue_Doggy wrote: »

Most if not all of our trade with non-EU countries is done through trade deals we have as a member of the EU. This is why Liam Fox has been trying to “roll over” the deals. We’ll need to set up new bilateral trade deals if they can’t be rolled over, and this can only be done after we have left the EU, including with Japan.

Quality, as you say, is determined in many ways: we want to be certain that the drugs we import match our requirements.

That is not true & a quick glance at our trading partners will show you why.
Our single largest trading partner for example is the USA.
No EU trade deal there, they couldn't agree one.