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UKCPS Not Parked in Marked Bay

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  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    Please see if someone can give you a hand over this - it's not straight forward but as you can see from how busy this forum is that others do manage to take in the advice in that thread

    Just concentrate on the first post there
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    Here's an idea...

    Why don't you send the already written for you, one size fits all, blue text template appeal that is in post #1 of the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread?

    Send it unchanged - no additions or alterations needed.

    Send it as the keeper.
  • ffacoffipawb
    ffacoffipawb Posts: 3,593 Forumite
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    edited 15 August 2019 at 2:42PM
    KeithP wrote: »
    Here's an idea...

    Why don't you send the already written for you, one size fits all, blue text template appeal that is in post #1 of the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread?

    Send it unchanged - no additions or alterations needed.

    Send it as the keeper.

    Is it this one, even though no overstay nor mention in it of marked bay contraventions? Should I ask for landowner and standing?

    Re PCN number:

    I dispute your 'parking charge', as the keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a formal complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner and to my MP.

    There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. Since your PCN is a vague template, I require ALL photos taken and an explanation of the allegation and your evidence, i.e.:

    - If the allegation concerns a PDT machine, the data supplied in response to this appeal must include the record of payments made - showing partial VRNs - and an explanation of the reason for the PCN, because your Notice does not explain it.

    - If the allegation involves an alleged overstay of minutes, your evidence must include the actual grace period agreed by the landowner. If you fail to evidence the actual grace period that applies at this site or suggest that only one period applies, this will be disregarded as an attempt to mislead. In the absence of evidence, it will be reasonably taken to be a minimum of twenty minutes (ten on arrival and ten after parking time) in accordance with the official BPA article by Kelvin Reynolds about 'observation periods' on arrival being additional and separate to a 'grace period' at the end.

    - in all cases, you must include a close up actual photograph of the sign you contend was at the location on the material date.

    Formal note:
    Should you later pursue this charge by way of litigation, note that service of any legal documents by email is expressly disallowed and you are not entitled to assume that the data in this dispute/appeal remains the current address for service in the future.

    Yours faithfully,
  • waamo
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    That's the one. Written in blue in the first post of the Newbies thread. If you actually read the Newbies thread it explains why your circumstances and back story are completely irrelevant.
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    Is it this one?
    Did you read the answer to this question in the NEWBIES thread?...
    Q - ''I have read the NEWBIES thread but cannot find anything specific to my case...my case is different''.

    How many blue text template appeals did you find in post #1 of the NEWBIES thread?

    Stop asking questions. Get on with it.
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    Once you have sent that then ignore everything except a lbcca or court correspondence

    (You are dealing with an IPC company - all explained in the FAQ)

    They have 6 years to start legal proceedings against you

    If it comes to that then come back at that time to the FAQ for advice on how to defend a Court claim , (same thread, but post #2 there!)
  • ffacoffipawb
    ffacoffipawb Posts: 3,593 Forumite
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    waamo wrote: »
    That's the one. Written in blue in the first post of the Newbies thread. If you actually read the Newbies thread it explains why your circumstances and back story are completely irrelevant.

    Thanks

    The signs say International Parking Committee
    The letter says International Parking Community

    Seems inconsistent.
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    The signs say International Parking Committee
    The letter says International Parking Community

    Seems inconsistent.
    Don't the signs say Independent Parking Committee?

    The letter is correct. The signs are not.
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    Thanks

    The signs say International Parking Committee
    The letter says International Parking Community

    Seems inconsistent.

    Don't worry about that!

    As advised, no more to do with the PPC after sending that letter

    If you feel you want to do something then try a landowner complaint whilst you wait and see if legal proceedings come along
  • ffacoffipawb
    ffacoffipawb Posts: 3,593 Forumite
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    Quentin wrote: »
    Don't worry about that!

    As advised, no more to do with the PPC after sending that letter

    If you feel you want to do something then try a landowner complaint whilst you wait and see if legal proceedings come along

    The signs also have BPA on the bottom as well as IPC.

    https://m.imgur.com/gallery/OpiLiRJ

    Why have both?

    Sign mentions ANPR but nothing about a jobsworth attendant.
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