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Court Letter Robinhood airport bus stop PCN help!

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  • sm1tt
    sm1tt Posts: 47 Forumite
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    This is for Posting on Tuesday!!


    Im fairly happy with it and it covers most of what i want just wondering if any of you lovely folk here maybe able to give it a quick once over before it sails its maiden voyage.


    I have of course delete some info that will make it official and obvs the signage and date etc!!


    thnx
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,612 Forumite
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    edited 2 December 2019 at 1:01AM
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    Greengrocer's apostrophe needs removing!

    And put the abuse of process argument on a different Supplementary WS to make the main WS about the £100 charge more on point.

    Oh, you could add Vine v Waltham Forest (presumably they already adduced that case?) because it was about a woman who was ill and found as fact as unable to have seen the signs which were not prominent. Similar to this case. Not seeing the signs IS a defence.

    Your numbering looks odd but might just be due to you redacting personal introductory stuff. I like the efforts you have made - it's a very good example of fighting a VCS Airport WS.

    Inclusion of Ransomes & Jopson transcripts are vital, along with the actual Airport byelaws as an exhibit, to show up VCS v Ward as a trashy piece of drivel steered by VCS' rep completely up the garden path, with the D not there.

    After all, as any fule kno, any useless bullyboy Claimant can win at a hearing when the D doesn't turn up. Such cases mean diddly squat.
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  • sm1tt
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    Would it be good practice to include the letters of breach of data they sent me to show incompetence on the claimants behalf?


    Other than that the transcripts i need and the adjustment to what goes where and as a supplement im ready to go!! Bring it on actually im getting excited about fighting this!!


    Thanks again for the help :)
  • sm1tt
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    oh and do i need to send all this as part of the WS or can the transcripts be taken to court for reference then?
    I ask because of the vast amount of printing i need to get done with all these documents etc!!
  • Coupon-mad
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    Transcripts need printing I'm afraid, for the court copy in a nice ring binder.

    The Claimant's copy can be emailed.
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  • sm1tt
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    Ok Thank you!!


    So the Claimants copy of the WS, Documents and Transcripts can all be sent via E-mail?
    Apologies for asking quite noobish questions just having a last minute p-p-panic over completing everything correctly and in the best way. (especially for copy of the courts)
  • sm1tt
    sm1tt Posts: 47 Forumite
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    So today was the day of the court case!!! A strange affair!!!



    The judge was very surprised to find the claimant had continued to pursue the case given light of the poor WS they had provided.


    The judge was impressed by the level of defence brought forward by the defendant.


    The Judge requested an adjournment based on the grounds that the Claimant had not had a full copy of the Defence even though this had been served to them and evidenced of doing so!


    He stated that he was highly interested in the goings on at Doncaster airport having already carried out a case similar and wanted to use this case as a test case to further understand the position of VCS!


    He stated that there were many DJ's interested in this case and of similar cases around the country.


    So we carry on fighting :)
  • Redx
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    Excellent , let's hope you get the right result and that we can see how judges feel about the issues on land under bylaws , like stopping cases at airports , as opposed to Parking issues at airports (which we rarely see)
  • Coupon-mad
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    sm1tt wrote: »
    So today was the day of the court case!!! A strange affair!!!

    The judge was very surprised to find the claimant had continued to pursue the case given light of the poor WS they had provided.

    The judge was impressed by the level of defence brought forward by the defendant.

    The Judge requested an adjournment based on the grounds that the Claimant had not had a full copy of the Defence even though this had been served to them and evidenced of doing so!

    He stated that he was highly interested in the goings on at Doncaster airport having already carried out a case similar and wanted to use this case as a test case to further understand the position of VCS!

    He stated that there were many DJ's interested in this case and of similar cases around the country.

    So we carry on fighting :)
    Interesting.

    Did you ask that your costs be reserved because the adjournment was not caused by any failure on your part and you have suffered costs by attending one hearing now, and need them to be recoverable at the next?
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  • sm1tt
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    Hi Apologies for late reply working life has become a little more stressful recently due to personal circumstances but i am always greatful for all your help!!!


    I did indeed have the opportunity to reserve costs for the first case and have now received the revised WS and arguments from the Claimant which is quite concise...


    Will add information at the weekend when i have more free time.


    ___Question...?


    Am i allowed to retort against the new found WS claims of the Claimant before the second trial date?
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