I believe I want my country back

shrek101

I ain't disputing that they may be polite and accomodating, often us Brits are regarded as thugs because of a minority of idiots that spoil it for everyone else.

Thank you for the English lesson, teacher.

I agree the Tories have a lot to answer for and so do the media.

I just think that people who come over here legally should integrate and learn our language and customs as we should respect there's.

surfcat wrote:

Which country can we deport you to since you clearly don't know the difference between theirs and there's?

(Just for the record there's is short for there is).

Perhaps you should learn a foreign language and visit a foreign country to experience how much more polite, accommodating, and hard working well most other cultures are.

Tories and their immigration poster have a lot to answer for.

shrek101

Nope I never been abroad actually not had the chance TBH.

Have you?

SidB wrote:

I presume you speak a wide range of languages then. Either that or you only holiday in English speaking countries.

chugalug

OP I believe you want 'your ' country back but it doesnt sound much like the country I know and want to keep. I'm glad we're becoming a bit more progressive but then being female, from a council estate with no education (yes even in 1978 some of us left school with no qualifications and a pregnancy to boot!!) I suspect you wouldnt want people like me in 'your' country. I'm glad my daughter gets to meet all sorts of people from all sorts of cultures, I'm glad my son learns to appreciate that the world view of Britain is not the only view there is and I'm glad society is trying to become more inclusive even if that does mean there are mistakes made. What you read in the papers and see on the news is there because it's newsworthy not necessarily because it's representative. I'd rather live here than anywhere else, time marches on and we'd better keep up!!

kinesin_2

RedOnRed wrote:

Couldn't disagree more. Perhaps if "your average police officer who's going around in urban areas to domestics, burglaries, breach of the peace" had a faster car they may be better equipped in pre-emptive policing and actually catching them at it, instead of just doing follow up calls the next day with a clipboard in a Fiesta diesel.

I wish they were a little faster. My girlfriend lives in skem (lancs) and the police on nearly on her friends and family list. Car was broken into, police never came. She found some bloke crawling thru the bathroom window :eek: after having smashed it open at about 1am - Note: she is a young (early 30's) female living alone - police didn't turn up for 12 hours!! She has to call the police at least once every 3 months.

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IMO This county is well and truely farked - the next 10 years are going to be economic hardship never seen with recession/depression and and the repayment of 1T of worth of debt, from a county without any manufacturing base anymore. The last 7 years have all been built on consumer driven debt fed by easy lending and it's going to bite this county harder than ever before. The media has fed the spending by boasting the celeb live style and the named brands that you must have to successful. It's now time to pay it back and the UK can't do that without some radical and hard times. Over half the jobs created in the past 5 years have been in the public sector - fueling the final salary pension issue. Costing the tax payer more in taxes to pay for wages/pensions. In a growth period a government should have been saving taxes to save the next slow period, we have spend more that we took in and now about to end up in very depressing looking creek!

Gordon Brown: no more boom & bust - I call BS!!
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SidB_2

kinesin wrote:

This county is well and truely farked - the next 10 years are going to be economic hardship never seen with recession/depression and and the repayment of 1T of worth of debt, from a county without any manufacturing base anymore. The last 7 years have all been built on consumer driven debt fed by easy lending and it's going to bite this county harder than ever before. The media has fed the spending by boasting the celeb live style and the named brands that you must have to successful. It's now time to pay it back and the UK can't do that without some radical and hard times. Over half the jobs created in the past 5 years have been in the public sector - fueling the final salary pension issue. Costing the tax payer more in taxes to pay for wages/pensions. In a growth period a government should have been saving taxes to save the next slow period, we have spend more that we took in and now about to end up in very depressing looking creek!

Gordon Brown: no more boom & bust - I call BS!!
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What a lot of BS.

You talk about media manipulation. I suggest you tak a long look in the mirror.

So this country is going under because of debt. My mortgage has risen in the last 15 years, so my investments in various properties has been a financial disaster. ALL major economic countries have resorted to borrowing at some recent point.

"In a growth period we should be saving our taxes". Perhaps we shouldn't have been paying off the debt build up by the previous government, or rectifying the years of underinvestment in the public sector, again by the previous government.

This country is one of the top 5 economic superpowers. We have the lowest unemployment in decades, and one of the longest periods of low inflation we've seen.

What has the celeb lifestyle got to do with me. I can't afford Ferraris or Armani suits, and I don't want them.

Sounds to me that your political view is to the right Atilla the Hun. Exactly which period in history do you think were the "golden years" ?

SidB_2

shrek101 wrote:

Nope I never been abroad actually not had the chance TBH.

Have you?

Yes I've been lucky enough to have been to a few. I don't speak the languages (except French and some Spanish), but have had great fun interacting with "Johnny foreigner", even though neither of us speak the same language. I've always found a happy smile and relaxed attitude go a long way to breaking the ice. I also find out the words for please and thank you, and use them. I have a respect for their culture and history, which I try to research before I visit.

Frogling

shrek101 wrote:

I mean people come here into our country they should have an understanding of basic English and respect our culture as we should there's.

SidB wrote:

I presume you speak a wide range of languages then. Either that or you only holiday in English speaking countries.

I think that shrek101 meant was people who come into the country with a view to staying long-term, not people who are coming here for a holiday.

My cousin works as a builder, and during some work on a new site last year in the middle of summer, all of the workers were ordered to wear full-length trousers and t-shirts no matter how hot the weather. They were told on no account to wear shorts or take their tops off. The reason they had to do this? A number of complaints from nearby residents that seeing men showing too much flesh went against their religious beliefs. This was in an area where asylum seekers were housed, and whilst I have no wish to upset anyones religious beliefs, why are we expected to conform to their beliefs whilst they disrespect our way of life?

If I were to go to live in another country, I would expect to live by their standards. If I wasn't willing to do that, then I wouldn't move to that country.

I have to admit that I am beginning to despair of a system that allows our country and its resources to be so badly abused. And yes, I know it is a system that our government is supporting, which only makes things worse. Political correctness has gone too far in some areas.

I do believe that we need to learn to get along with all races and religions, but not at the risk of losing all of our own traditions and beliefs. I've even heard rumours about shops not closing on Christmas Day because other religions in our country don't celebrate that day. The world is slowly but surely going mad!

geo555

shrek101 wrote:

Another one for you. There are now plans to abolise the Gideon bible in hospitaks for fear of offending other faiths.

Does anyone know of any muslim, black person, women etc. actually being offended by a bible, blackboards, manholes and so on.
We respect other people but are not respected ourselves.

SidB_2

geo555 wrote:

Does anyone know of any muslim, black person, women etc. actually being offended by a bible, blackboards, manholes and so on.

I object to whiteboards.

shrek101

It's this political correctness that is going mad. I am not a particularly religious person myself, so I don't mind other faiths, what I object to is the political correctness that is trying to appease other faiths but whilst doing so offend the main faith in our country.

I can't see how the Gideon bible can offend anyone, people who are of other faiths and or non faith at all, don't have to read the bible. If the worse comes to it, I am sure the hospital would remove it.

I am not sure whether other faiths have objected at all, it maybe just the political correctness.

geo555 wrote:

Does anyone know of any muslim, black person, women etc. actually being offended by a bible, blackboards, manholes and so on.
We respect other people but are not respected ourselves.