I believe I want my country back

RedOnRed

shrek101 wrote:

There are now plans to abolise the Gideon bible in hospitaks for fear of offending other faiths. I mean people come here into our country they should have an understanding of basic English and respect our culture as we should there's.

It's about time they abolished leaving Gideon bibles in hotels etc. It always seems a bit archaic and ominous that they should choose to leave a Bible behind.

Although the Bible's a Bible, the Gideons are actually American anyway.

Queenie

Pennywise wrote:

...... and was astounded to hear that the police were seeking witnesses to a crime where a shop window had been broken - in the UK the police wouldn't even bother turning up yet alone actually making the effort to investigate it!

Don't know where you live ... but that simply isn't true.

Pennywise wrote:

Lots of police "walking the streets" not hiding in their Volvo and BMW police cars like in the UK.

Our Police *hide*??? Again, not true.

While that may well be your *perception*, it simply isn't *fact*.

RedOnRed

It does seem odd that they put the most experienced police, in the best cars, usually with guns only to go and patrol the countries roads and to subsequently over zealously criminalise a large proportion of the population for fractionally exceeding the speed limit.

peterbaker

RedOnRed wrote:

It does seem odd that they put the most experienced police, in the best cars, usually with guns only to go and patrol the countries roads and to subsequently over zealously criminalise a large proportion of the population for fractionally exceeding the speed limit.

Whilst I disagree with Queenie on this, I am not sure how much more skewed you can make your arguments Red...I believe the police DO spend proportionately far too much time in their BMWs and not on foot as they used to, but AFAIK they don't use their BMWs to over-zealously criminalise anyone except tearaways and chancers who don't pay their dues.

I believe the Police DO overzealously use Speed Cameras at least in many constabularies in the South East and totally under-police the roads. I believe they also chase about with sirens blaring on supposedly useful training exercises far too much and far too dangerously.

And finally, I do think lots of them probably hide from some types of trouble - I am sure I would be just as guilty of that if I was one because I just haven't a clue about the extremity of beliefs of the next person I might meet around a dark corner.

elvis_bloggs

RedOnRed wrote:

Cheer up, you'll soon be dead.

Yeah, that's the point, bloody immigration services.

RedOnRed

peterbaker wrote:

Whilst I disagree with Queenie on this, I am not sure how much more skewed you can make your arguments Red...I believe the police DO spend proportionately far too much time in their BMWs and not on foot as they used to, but AFAIK they don't use their BMWs to over-zealously criminalise anyone except tearaways and chancers who don't pay their dues.

Presumably, if you did as much driving as I have to you might understand exactly where i'm coming from.

I have to drive all over the place, past mobile camera vans, speed cameras and the above police sneakily placed on the side of roads with laser guns. There is now so many varying speed zones that it's easy to confuse exactly what speed you should be going. You can go from 60 to 50 to 40 t0 30 and randomly back round again and then sometimes you're still supposed to gauge speed limits by lamp post distancing.

By the time i've arrived at my destination, sweating with complimentary paranoia regarding have I lost my livelihood...I justifiably end up making that sort of comment.

peterbaker

RedOnRed wrote:

Presumably, if you did as much driving as I have to you might understand exactly where i'm coming from.

Oh ok Red, I do sympathise, but it's the cameras and sneaky stuff that's annoying isn't it, not the use of expensive cars to catch you surely? I far prefer the sporting chance given by an officer in a Volvo estate who surprises you on the move and has you over for a chat than the greyness of the fluorescent yellow on the back of a speed camera hidden behind a roadsign anyday!!

BTW Unless you are older than me, I have probably done as much driving as anyone and still do a 280 mile round trip every fortnight which crosses through five different constabularies!

Jay-Jay_4

ahem!


FWIW the 'new' system of learning to read or 'jolly phonics' DOES work and doesn't cost any more money than the old system. It's used in many schools already with great success.

It gives children the ability to 'sound out' any word they wish to read rather than having to teach them to read each word (whole word recognition). The children use phonics together with whole word recognition to develop a flowing reading style.

If a child knows that a y on the end of a word makes an i sound and that an e on the end of a word makes the middle vowel into its proper sound (are you still following this?) then they know that happy is pronounced happi and that by putting and e on the end of hat you get hate, hence the a changes from an ah sound to an ay sound.

We take these rules for granted but it's difficult for a 5 year old to understand if they aren't taught these simple rules......Jollyphonics teaches them these rules but in a fun and easy to learn way.

RedOnRed

peterbaker wrote:

Oh ok Red, I do sympathise, but it's the cameras and sneaky stuff that's annoying isn't it, not the use of expensive cars to catch you surely? I far prefer the sporting chance given by an officer in a Volvo estate who surprises you on the move and has you over for a chat than the greyness of the fluorescent yellow on the back of a speed camera hidden behind a roadsign anyday!!

BTW Unless you are older than me, I have probably done as much driving as anyone and still do a 280 mile round trip every fortnight which crosses through five different constabularies!

The point I was trying to make about the higher performance police cars is that they quite often seem to be wasted patrolling roads in rural areas whilst the response panda cars are pottering around urban areas in low performance diesels.

280 miles is quite often done by me in a day, and I still have to do a 9-5 in between.

Wig

raeble wrote:

You are being naive if you believe Money will solve Africa's problems. I fully agree Africa is in this state because of the meddling of the West, however Africa stays in this state because of it's corrupt, greedy and inept leaders. The people in charge have a tendency to look after number one first and let the rest of the people go hang. What do you mean by free trade? How on earth do we force another country to trade freely with us? We can't, not without some sort of sanctions and then its not really free trade is it?

Obviously there needs to be debt relief combined with real help/education/healthcare the money currently leaving these countries to pay the rich countries should be re-directed to help them develop. The leaders are corrupt and many of them are/have been supported by the 1st world countries, knowing they were corrupt.

Since Colonial times these countries have been locked in to supplying European markets with *raw* materials eg sugar cane, coffee/cocoa beans etc and locked out from supplying the refined product. The producer countries simply have not been allowed to refine their own sugar and sell it to Europe (recently they have been given small quotas). British Sugar, which has a monopoly of beet refining in Britain, receives a public subsidy of almost $130 million a year. The EU became the world's largest exporter of refined white sugar, dumping its subsidised surpluses on world markets, collapsing the price of sugar and impoverishing producers throughout the South.

Now there are talks starting about opening free trade between Europe and Africa, the irony is though that because there is no capable industry in these countries the flood of cheap European refined products could well do even more damage to the economies of those countries. They need to be protected from cheap European imports, to allow them to develop their own refinery industries. Just as Europe and America protected ourselves (over the last 50 years or whatever) against the import of these cheap refined products.

MRSA - nothing to do with the drug companies, they didn't create it. The dirty hospitals, the lack of basic hygiene by staff in the hospitals - I think the blame lies with the Tories for the reason we have so much of it in this country. They are the ones that deregulated the cleaners in the hospitals, that brought in the internal market into hospitals.

You are quite simply wrong, MRSA is a direct result of the antibiotic frenzy over the last 50 years. There have been warnings about this for decades but the drug companies didn't care, GP's wrecklessly using new antibiotics instead of using the older ones first has lead to bacteria becoming resistant, it was inevitable anyway but it certainly was not managed well to slow the process. In this sense the drug companies have "created" MRSA. You also missed my point about developing a cure.

Yes, the reason why we have more of it than say France is because we don't clean our hospitals properly and because we don't build new purpose built modern hospitals. And the reason for this is because successive governments have tried to do things as cheap as possible, giving contracts to the cheapest tender, who then employ people on cheap wages, it's not rocket science to see that this will lead to a drop in quality.

Well this is supposed to be a Christian country whether you believe in it or not, I don't see why bibles should be removed from hospitals because they may possibly offend someone - you don't have to look in the draw. If you spend all your time doing things so that they don't offend someone you'll end up offending everyone.

I believe it is a disgrace that this countries government through the head of state is directly connected with the church. They should be completely separate including in schools. There should be no religious documents of any faith in any hospital, if the patients want them they can bring their own. How is this going to offend any sensible person?