British Airways **STRIKE DATES ANNOUNCED FOR SEPTEMBER 9th, 10th & 27th**

malkie76

But that’s what’s on offer - increased pay is a share of the profits. Employees obviously make the company operational, but so are the investors. They lost money (or didn’t earn money) for several years while BA struggled, whereas staff were still paid.

Westin

malkie76 wrote: »

But that’s what’s on offer - increased pay is a share of the profits. Employees obviously make the company operational, but so are the investors. They lost money (or didn’t earn money) for several years while BA struggled, whereas staff were still paid.

But I believe that is the flight deck crews main grievance.

When the airline was struggling BA asked staff to take cuts in wages and allowances to help it through the hard times. This they did. The airline subsequently made a good recovery and has become very profitable again. BA Management have rewarded themselves with payrises and bonuses but have not reinstated those lost allowances or salary to BA staff. The three year pay deal on offer is based on the reduced/cut remuneration.

bobblebob

And to add, its not really an 11% rise. If staff say took a 5% paycut ( ive no idea what it actually was) then in real terms there only 6% better off than before the paycut

Its similar to the NHS payrise. On paper it sounded alot (i got 17% over 3 years), but seeing as we had been getting below inflation rises of 1% for many many years previously, that payrise only really put me inline with inflation at the tine

Ganga

bobblebob wrote: »

And to add, its not really an 11% rise. If staff say took a 5% paycut ( ive no idea what it actually was) then in real terms there only 6% better off than before the paycut

Its similar to the NHS payrise. On paper it sounded alot (i got 17% over 3 years), but seeing as we had been getting below inflation rises of 1% for many many years previously, that payrise only really put me inline with inflation at the tine

At least you got a pay rise every year,most people have had no pay rises for many years:eek:

bobblebob

Talks to continue next week. Good news? Think the Union only agreed to more talks if there was some progress

jasdev

I'm due to fly with BA in the Bank Holiday week. I probably should have bought travel insurance back when I made the booking, but I foolishly didn't think I'd need it for a 4-5 day break in Europe.

However, I fully support the pilots union in their action and believe them when they say that they don't want to strike - it is, however, probably the only action that will drag an intransigent management to the negotiation table.

You don't have to look hard to find negative commentary about BA going downhill or screwing up when searching for news on the company; in light of the actions of management over the past few years, I am minded to cast a more critical eye whenever they try to spin this story in the airline's favour.

Even the mighty Ryanair agreed to talk to unions (and Michael O'Leary previously said hell would freeze over before he ever recognised one!). However in disagreement with a related post on the previous page, I think that the Boeing 737 Max grounding has more to do with their job cuts than anything else.

photome

bobblebob wrote: »

And to add, its not really an 11% rise. If staff say took a 5% paycut ( ive no idea what it actually was) then in real terms there only 6% better off than before the paycut

Its similar to the NHS payrise. On paper it sounded alot (i got 17% over 3 years), but seeing as we had been getting below inflation rises of 1% for many many years previously, that payrise only really put me inline with inflation at the tine

I have had 2 pay rises in the last 8 years, both were 1.5%,

I don’t have much sympathy for anyone complaining about 11% ( or 17%)

silvercar

I'm concerned. I have a long haul flight booked on BA paid for with Avios and separately booked a hotel.

If the flight gets cancelled, the Avios will be refunded (and possibly the 2-4-1 voucher reinstated) but I still need to get to the destination. Having blown the budget on the hotel, finding a cheap flight so close to departure will be a challenge!

bobblebob

photome wrote: »

I have had 2 pay rises in the last 8 years, both were 1.5%,

I don’t have much sympathy for anyone complaining about 11% ( or 17%)

I wasnt asking for sympathy, i was pointing out there is usually more to it than the tabloid grabbing headlines we see. From what i can gather, the pilots and other staff gave up alot when BA were making a loss, under the promise they would get that money back when the companies profits improve. That doesnt seem to be happening, but the media dont report that funnily enough as it doesnt create headlines

jackieblack

silvercar wrote: »

I'm concerned. I have a long haul flight booked on BA paid for with Avios and separately booked a hotel.

If the flight gets cancelled, the Avios will be refunded (and possibly the 2-4-1 voucher reinstated) but I still need to get to the destination. Having blown the budget on the hotel, finding a cheap flight so close to departure will be a challenge!

Does paying with Avios mean you lose the option to be re-routed?