Parking charge and admin fee from hire company

Coupon-mad

on the paperwork CPM sent to the hire car company it states it is a "Penalty charge notice"

Say what now?

DoaM

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Say what now?

Read further down - already corrected.

anxiouscharlie

Sorry for the confusion!

I guess what I am trying to get at is that can you claim to be the hirer of the vehicle and not the driver? Unless that vehicle was stolen then surely that argument won't stand up?

It is probably better to fight it along the "you have no jurisdiction here" lines, and the ridiculous number of conflicting signs in the carpark.

The hire company received the notices on 4 June, so I'm anticipating the notices to arrive soon. Unless they have seen sense - probably a naive pipe dream!!

The_Deep

I am trying to get at is that how can you claim to be the hirer of the vehicle not the driver?

Easy, when you sign the contract you state how many people will drive the vehicle.

waamo

anxiouscharlie wrote: »

Sorry for the confusion! I am trying not to say anything that would implicate me.

I guess what I am trying to get at is that how can you claim to be the hirer of the vehicle not the driver? Unless that vehicle was stolen then surely that argument won't stand up?

Am I not better to fight it along the "you have no jurisdiction here" lines, and the ridiculous number of conflicting signs in the carpark?

The hire company received my notices on 4 June, so I am anticipating my notices to arrive soon. Unless they have seen sense and realised I was a resident and entitled to be there - probably a naive pipe dream!!

Just because you hire a vehicle it doesn't mean you are necessarily the driver. Anybody with the correct insurance can drive it.

I've never seen many hire agreements that state driving is strictly limited to the hirer only. You can often select to have multiple drivers. The ppc have no way of seeing what you signed either.

MistyZ

Just separate out the hirer and driver and leave it at that. And then perhaps delete any posts in this part of the discussion that identify the driver.

Redx

almost any car mechanic can legally drive the vehicle , like who work for garages or MOT stations, emergency workers like the Police , breakdown mechanics , the AA and RAC and GREEN FLAG employees etc , plus all the people like me who have FULLY COMP insurance and can drive any vehicle not belonging to them and not hired to them under any hire agreement

this means tens of thousands of people could drive this vehicle , so the list is almost endless (think outside the box)

anxiouscharlie

So after more than a MONTH I received two “parking charge notices” from UKCPM in the post. They have the driver on CCTV so I don’t think disputing who was driving is wise. I think the best argument is the conflicting signage. I have contacted my local MP and will update her with the official wording in my letters. One thing I am clinging onto is that they state the car was in a “no waiting” zone, which is incorrect.

KeithP

So that have a picture of an unknown person driving the vehicle.

How are you making the major leap from that to them knowing the name and address of the driver?

They have no way of putting a name to that picture.

Oh... and it is not CCTV.

waamo

anxiouscharlie wrote: »

So after more than a MONTH I received two “parking charge notices” from UKCPM in the post. They have the driver on CCTV so I don’t think disputing who was driving is wise. I think the best argument is the conflicting signage. I have contacted my local MP and will update her with the official wording in my letters. One thing I am clinging onto is that they state I was in a “no waiting” zone, which is incorrect.

Do they have facial recognition software? If not how do they know who it is in the pictures?