Will Brexit happen?

gfplux

cognoscente said:

movilogo said:

Can't imagine this thread is still alive even after Brexit has happened. 

Just shows how many haters there are, still trying to thwart Brexit. Or if that fails (which we mostly know it has) think of any excuse you can to prove Brexit is bad, never mind that it'll probably never be conclusively proven whether it's truly beneficial or not just like EU membership.   

Where have you been? Brexit has happened. The sunny uplands are just around the corner.

Sailtheworld

cognoscente said:

movilogo said:

Can't imagine this thread is still alive even after Brexit has happened. 

Just shows how many haters there are, still trying to thwart Brexit. Or if that fails (which we mostly know it has) think of any excuse you can to prove Brexit is bad, never mind that it'll probably never be conclusively proven whether it's truly beneficial or not just like EU membership.   

What you talking about Willis? Firstly who say 'thwart' anymore? Secondly thwarting brexit hasn't just mostly failed - we left the EU in case you missed it. That funny smell that surrounds you is the smell of victory. You won!

The thread's moved on to trade negotiations now which is far more interesting than the withdrawal arrangements. 

ukcarper

Will be if EU manages to  agree its budget.

cognoscente

gfplux said:

cognoscente said:

movilogo said:

Can't imagine this thread is still alive even after Brexit has happened. 

Just shows how many haters there are, still trying to thwart Brexit. Or if that fails (which we mostly know it has) think of any excuse you can to prove Brexit is bad, never mind that it'll probably never be conclusively proven whether it's truly beneficial or not just like EU membership.   

Where have you been? Brexit has happened. The sunny uplands are just around the corner.

The sunny uplands arrived as soon as the EU shackles came off. 
  

cognoscente

ukcarper said:

Will be if EU manages to  agree its budget.

I wonder if that'll take longer than it does to agree a trade deal? 

Sailtheworld

Just realised I hadn't voted in the poll. I've gone for yes.

Sailtheworld

UK's negotiating position published. 
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/868874/The_Future_Relationship_with_the_EU.pdf

Not read it yet but, somehow, some of the talking heads have managed to do so and seem to saying, apart from a few areas, the EU & UK aren't a million miles apart.

However due to the ridiculous adversarial positions that are being taken by both sides to find mutual advantage expect much  waving of small willies and puffing out of flabby chests. 

Moe_The_Bartender

I've read it and the UK's position is one that no reasonable person could disagree with. Unfortunately we are not dealing with people who are either reasonable or trustworthy.

Herzlos

Moe_The_Bartender said:

I've read it and the UK's position is one that no reasonable person could disagree with. Unfortunately we are not dealing with people who are either reasonable or trustworthy.

It depends on what you view as reasonable.  Intro section 5 already rules out any comprehensive free trade. 

I'm assuming the short version is the cake and eat it: completely free trade with the EU but without having to follow any of the rules?

Zero_Gravitas

Moe_The_Bartender said:

I've read it and the UK's position is one that no reasonable person could disagree with. Unfortunately we are not dealing with people who are either reasonable or trustworthy.

On this occasion, you're absolutely right. The UK government is demonstrably neither reasonable or trustworthy. Good of you to confirm this.