Next door neighbour still being noisy despite telling her...

shortcrust

Norman_Castle wrote: »

As the op has stated, the noise needs to be heard to be understood.

It doesn't really matter how loud it is. What matters is whether what's causing the noise is unreasonable. This woman is talking on the phone in her own house! If that's causing problems the problem is with the building and/or the OP's reaction to noise. It's not reasonable to expect her to stop talking on the phone at 7am, and I think it's totally unreasonable to complain to her about it. If the neighbour was a relative of mine I'd be having a chat with the OP.

mollycat

Norman_Castle wrote: »

As the op has stated, the noise needs to be heard to be understood.

Obviously.

But did you get the gist of the post?

You have supported the OP by telling her how terrible it all sounds; how will that help her?

She needs to take action either by learning how to manage this better, or minimising it's effect.

I'm all ears for the reason you feel she is entitled to define the volume, manner and timing of her neighbours conversation in her own home?

Norman_Castle

shortcrust wrote: »

It doesn't really matter how loud it is. What matters is whether what's causing the noise is unreasonable. This woman is talking on the phone in her own house! If that's causing problems the problem is with the building and/or the OP's reaction to noise. It's not reasonable to expect her to stop talking on the phone at 7am, and I think it's totally unreasonable to complain to her about it.If the neighbour was a relative of mine I'd be having a chat with the OP.

This woman is shouting into her phone so loudly it is waking her neighbour who is trying to sleep in her own house!

Why have you given yourself a role in this "If the neighbour was a relative of mine I'd be having a chat with the OP"? If the neighbour was a neighbour of yours you'd understand the problem.

Norman_Castle

mollycat wrote: »

I'm all ears for the reason you feel she is entitled to define the volume, manner and timing of her neighbours conversation in her own home?

Because the noise isn't in her own home. Its in the ops home.

mollycat

Norman_Castle wrote: »

This woman is shouting into her phone so loudly it is waking her neighbour who is trying to sleep in her own house!

Why have you given yourself a role in this "If the neighbour was a relative of mine I'd be having a chat with the OP"? If the neighbour was a neighbour of yours you'd understand the problem.

How is your stance in any way logical?!

You deride myself for not knowing how loud the noise is, but a few minutes later you yourself know that it is loud enough for a different poster to be bothered by it.

BTW, your use of sarcasm in your earlier response, ("how noble") has also been noted as unhelpful by the OP, and always seems to me to be the sanctuary of one who has lost the argument or one who is simply looking for an reaction.

need_an_answer

Sophie_10 wrote: »

Hi need an answer,

Apologies, I'm not quite sure if you read my post completely?

I said I understand where she is coming from and that we are considering soundproofing, I've tried ear plugs etc. surely that comes under the definition of compromising?

Yes Sophie I did read your post completely before I made my reply.
Although I note you have now deleted your opening post presumably because you either have the answer to your question or feel that perhaps the tone of responses you are getting are not to your liking...harsh as it may seem many have spoken about the actual reality of living in a terraced property which I still maintain however much you spend on soundproffing will never negate the noise.

In trying ear plugs you are finding that they don't eliminate the noise you find intrusive that's not really a compromise more of trying a solution that hasn't worked.


It would be interesting to hear what compromise you have suggested to the neighbour that you would like her to try. My guess is that you haven't offered a compromise but simply suggested she laughs and conducts her phonecalls at a time that is more suited to your choosing...that's not a compromise that would be an instruction.

If you are having genuine noise issues with the neighbour you could always keep a log of the instances and report your findings to the local council who have the authority to intervene if the levels are deemed excessive or cause severe disturbance.That might be an option to consider before you spend many thousands on sound proofing.
Its also worth remembering that situations do change and your neighbour may decide to move,afterall no one lives indefinitely in one property and what is a bother to you now may not be the case in 12 months time.

Even if you are able to come up with a solution that you agree with the neighbour its not set in stone in as much as what happens when she moves...you may end up with worse...better the devil you know!

A quick google will throw up many companies who offer solutions however many appear quite invasive in regards to how much work would need doing to block noise but the choice is always yours,personally I would put the money in a savings account towards your next home move.

an example being https://www.soundproofingstore.co.uk/how-to-soundproof-my-wall-against-noisy-neighbours



Whatever way you choose to take this further I wish you well whether that be to get expensive soundproofing,a dog or child or simply learn to live with it,prior to moving to somewhere more isolated.

mollycat

Norman_Castle wrote: »

Because the noise isn't in her own home. Its in the ops home.

I think you're just being silly now.

Unless you live on the moon you will hear noises within your home that are not generated by your own household.

It's a pity that you have a neighbour that wakes you early in the morning, i fail to see why that has then made you feel obligated to oppose yourself to people who are taking a much more balanced view.

Other than telling the OP she is correct to be bothering this woman what do you propose that would be helpful?

Genuine question.

Norman_Castle

mollycat wrote: »

How is your stance in any way logical?!

You deride myself for not knowing how loud the noise is, but a few minutes later you yourself know that it is loud enough for a different poster to be bothered by it.

BTW, your use of sarcasm in your earlier response, ("how noble") has also been noted as unhelpful by the OP, and always seems to me to be the sanctuary of one who has lost the argument or one who is simply looking for an reaction.

Unlike you, I'm accepting the ops opinion with regards to how loud the noise is.
How noble? Why the need to paint the rosy picture of the neighbour. Stick to the facts as given by the op.

mollycat

Norman_Castle wrote: »

Unlike you, I'm accepting the ops opinion with regards to how loud the noise is.
How noble? Why the need to paint the rosy picture of the neighbour. Stick to the facts as given by the op.

I said she was using her time productively: fairly neutral and not contentious I'd say.

Can i help you by suggesting that it's your translation of it that is assumptive?

"Stick to the facts given by the OP", can i suggest you read people's posts properly before your knee jerk posting, my entry into this thread was clearly stated as providing a different perspective.

Norman_Castle

mollycat wrote: »

I think you're just being silly now.

Unless you live on the moon you will hear noises within your home that are not generated by your own household.

It's a pity that you have a neighbour that wakes you early in the morning, i fail to see why that has then made you feel obligated to oppose yourself to people who are taking a much more balanced view.

Other than telling the OP she is correct to be bothering this woman what do you propose that would be helpful?

Portraying someone as "silly" because they don't agree with you is just condescending.


Its amusing you claim your view is more balanced than others.


Apparently the op has removed her post and who can blame her.

I didn't need to tell the op she is "correct" or being reasonable. I accepted her judgement.

How to help the op? Rather than your approach of telling her she is wrong, very helpful, as previously suggested distract herself with her own noise such as a radio or work with the neighbour.


I'm not wasting further time in a bickering match with you.