Dogs on planes (in the cabin)

chucknorris

elsien wrote: »

I'm aware of dogs dying in the hold. But I also believe many dogs would find being stuck in a cage near other unknown dogs and people with the unfamiliar environment, noise from the engines and changes in air pressure extremely stressful as well. It being the lesser of two evils still doesn't make it a good choice. It wouid make Gitdog ill - any sort of stress gives him colitis.
And my mother is part of my family - doesn't mean I want to take her on holiday with me.

That's why I would spend the entire flight, or as long as I could right next to him. When we got the car ferry to Spain (Portsmouth to Santander) I was going to spend the night in a sleeping bag next to his cage in the dog kennel despite paying for a cabin (Brittany Ferries agreed I could do that). But luckily though, a month before the holiday they emailed me to say that they were introducing dog cabins, which I paid the extra for.

Your mother can choose her own holidays, my dog can't. i'm not saying it is compulsory, if you don't like the idea, you don't have to do it.

Westin

chucknorris wrote: »

No I'm not suggesting that, what part of:



did you not understand?

Oh just an odd flight then.

So how does it work. 6-9 seats removed for dog kennels on the EasyJet Thursday flight from Southend to Gerona then park the aircraft up for the rest of the week.

chucknorris

Westin wrote: »

Oh just an odd flight then.

So how does it work. 6-9 seats removed for dog kennels on the EasyJet Thursday flight from Southend to Gerona then park the aircraft up for the rest of the week.

I can see that you are not a businessman are you? Try using logic, why would you park the jet up? Why can't they fly the jet without dogs? Only a small number of passenger seats that have been allocated to dogs?

They trial one plane with as many dog passengers as they can get, it is a small cost to find a potential profit increase. Worst case scenario is that if doesn't do well, they have only lost a few seats on flights that probably wouldn't be 100% booked anyway.

When Brittany Ferries trailed dog cabins, they never looked back. If you don't book on the first two days of dog cabins being available for the next 6 months, just forget it, they will be all gone. Last year we had to switch our winter holiday from December to April, because we left it until the third day, and they were all booked up.

There is no serious competition for any airline that tries it out, we did consider private jets, but although we can afford it, it is excessive at about £30k return flight to Spain (for just one of us taking my dog, and either my wife or me getting a normal flight). On private jets you simply walk on the jet with your dog and keep your dog on a lead. Your dog sits on the floor next to you.

MsM09

My dog would hate this, but if I had a more chilled dog I would. And I think responsible dog owners would do right by their dog and Know whether it is a good/bad thing for their dog

As for being a passenger on the plane, I would love that. I always feel better with dogs around. Id prefer barking dogs to smelly crying children any day

PasturesNew

A plane is not just a plane, it's a plane undertaking a particular journey .... that might then break down, or get held up/miss its slot and/or be diverted elsewhere...

You could have a plane with cages and let people book those cages, but once that plane takes off, the carrier can't guarantee that the next leg will be booked at all for any dogs ... then it's diverted due to fog and is now in the wrong place as they want to send the plane back down to London, but it's got cages and the cage plane is needed in Edinburgh as it's booked. It'd be a nightmare.

chucknorris

PasturesNew wrote: »

A plane is not just a plane, it's a plane undertaking a particular journey .... that might then break down, or get held up/miss its slot and/or be diverted elsewhere...

You could have a plane with cages and let people book those cages, but once that plane takes off, the carrier can't guarantee that the next leg will be booked at all for any dogs ... then it's diverted due to fog and is now in the wrong place as they want to send the plane back down to London, but it's got cages and the cage plane is needed in Edinburgh as it's booked. It'd be a nightmare.

I agree that it wouldn't work for two leg journeys, but we don't have single leg journeys right now (for larger dogs) one step at a time. Your post (and the one above was well thought out and constructive) so thanks for that, so more logical than the post from the guy that seems to think that jets can't fly without dogs onboard :rotfl:

mgdavid

Hopefully Brexit will put a stop to this animal passport nonsense completely. Bad enough having them crapping and urinating all around the channel ports, having that on board an aircraft would be gross.

Andrew1974

Silly suggestion started by someone would buys pet then don't want to pay for kennels. Don't kid on "the dog loves going abroad" Passenger cabins are now bad enough without people bringing this as well.

GwylimT

chucknorris wrote: »

and do they appreciate the same smell form small children (who are not behind a door)? The thing is though that pet owners would probably book the seat tickets near that area, I certainly would, and also the additional revenue could reduce overall ticket costs, I would pay at least 5 times the cost of a human ticket for my per Lab, and the density is greater, that would mean about 15 fold the income of human passengers. I would spend all the possible time that I could in that area right next to my dogs cage to comfort him, therefore he would not bark or howl.

No you would not have to remove more rows of seats, you could easily fit at least 8 dog cages stacked in the space occupied by 2 rows of seats.

EDIT: If you felt that way about dogs, why would you book a seat on one of the few flights that was carrying dogs? It just wouldn't be logical, but maybe you aren't either.

Babies aren’t left covered in their own fecal matter, dogs are.

A small labrador would need a carrier of at least 120x90x90, I think you may need to reconsider your maths.

GwylimT

chucknorris wrote: »

Dogs up to 6 -12 kg (depending on the airline) can already fly in the cabin (for from a nominal charge to about £180, they go under the seat) with many airlines, this would be for larger dogs. There is a HUGE difference between the hold and the cabin. I would never put my dog in the hold, dogs have died in there (google it). My dog is part of my family, he goes where I go.

They can’t however fly into UK in the cabin, animals are only able to leave the UK in the cabin.