One Parking Solution PCN + Gladstones - Parked for 8mins, LBC for £208!

nosferatu1001

I would respond back, refuting their assertion that you parked, you drove etc.
If they continue to make such claims, you require them to demonstrate proof of this without delay - as part of the overriding objectives they are obliged to do so.

StubbornGoat

How does this sound? I'm not sure whether to leave in or take out the part about costs...

Dear X,

You imply that it was me that was driving. However as you can tell from the CCTV images, it is clearly not me. I am a man. The person in the images is a woman. I may be the registered keeper of the vehicle, but I was not the driver.

Also, the grace period cannot start from when the car first enters the road as the terms are on the back of a give way sign and therefore the driver has not yet been given any opportunity to be made aware of those terms. Not only that but by your own words you concede that the sign is "not wholly readable" (even when standing closer to the sign and standing outside the car), so how is the grace period supposed to start whilst the driver is sat low down and in a moving car?

I'm afraid my position on this has not and will not change.

To avoid any ambushing of costs, should your client wish to proceed with court, I will be claiming all costs including and not limited to:

- Loss of earnings/leave, incurred through attendance at Court
- Return mileage from home address to Court
- Parking near Court
- All stationary and postage for Printing of letters, Statement of Defence and Witness Statement.
- Time spent on Reading Documents
- Time spent on Writing and Drafting documents
- Time spent in all correspondence regarding this PCN

This will all be done officially through the right channels. I just want to give your client the opportunity to retract their claim.

Yours Faithfully.

waamo

I would leave it in about costs. They can't claim they've been ambushed if it's brought up in court then.

StubbornGoat

waamo wrote: »

I would leave it in about costs. They can't claim they've been ambushed if it's brought up in court then.

That was my thinking too.

Le_Kirk

Putting on my pedantic grammarian hat, correct the following: -

Not only that but by your own words you concede that the sign is "not wholly readable" (even when standing closer to the sign and standing outside the car), so how is the grace period supposed to start whilst the driver is sat low down and in a moving car?

to: -

Not only that but by your own words you concede that the sign is "not wholly readable" (even when standing closer to the sign and standing outside the car), so how is the grace period supposed to start whilst the driver is [strike]sat[/strike] sitting low down and in a moving car?

Fruitcake

From Gladrags,

With regard to the signs, the grace period previously discussed permits motorists to exit their vehicle and consider the terms on the sign within the same period.

From you,

Also, the grace period cannot start from when the car first enters the road ...

I would change this to something like,

You have freely admitted that the relevant grace period starts from when the driver exits the vehicle, not when the vehicle enters the car park, yet your claim is based on the duration that the car was in the car park, not from when you now say the grace period begins ...

[STRIKE]I'm afraid m[/STRIKE]My position on this has not and will not change.

Coupon-mad

Good for you, Stubborn Goat, again!

Give them a ball park figure or attach a draft costs schedule which is 'subject to some fluctuation' depending upon their response and the hours you need to spend pre-hearing.

Fruitcake

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Good for you, Stubborn Goat, again!

Give them a ball park figure or attach a draft costs schedule which is 'subject to some fluctuation' depending upon their response and the hours you need to spend pre-hearing.

Additional miscellaneous costs as required to continue my defence, including Parking on the court date perhaps?

Coupon-mad

And Coupon-mad's attendance expenses if he really wants to push it! Doubt we'd get it but the Judge at Worthing was absolutely on the ball when SG & I went to his last case.

StubbornGoat

Unfortunately I had already sent the reply - However I will be sure to include all costs (including lay rep costs ) when I serve them the costs application well before court date.

SG