Front part of HGV lorry parked outside? Illegal?

rajeshk4u

About two or three weeks ago, I had a HGV vehicle lorry parking overnight outside my house. It is a residential street. The HGV vehicle is taller then the houses in the area.

This is just the front part of a HGV lorry, so it is n't pulling anything.

I don't know why they don't park on some street in an industrial estate, it is obscuring everything out of my window. But it also a security risk in terms of neighbourhood watch, because people can't see my house and vice versa.

Whilst, I could tolerate if this was a one-off, but they are back again.

Last time, alongside this HGV there are another vehicle, a black shiny pick-up truck. Whilst the engine of the HGV was off, but the pick-up truck had the engine running all night long. There were people inside, so I assume it was the lorry driver and a mate.

The noise really drove me up the wall.

If the driver was awake all night long, then how can it be safe for him to drive in the morning. In the morning both vehicles were gone.

I am in the area, where the police would not attend....

I tried to contact the council, but they have an automated switchboard. I can't get through to a human!

missile

That must be very annoying and now they have found a parking spot they will likely be back soon.

Contact your local councillor.

Most commercial vehicles have the company name and contact details and you could complain to their employer.

AdrianC

I presume by "the front part", you mean an articulated tractor unit?
Just this bit...



The truck's operating base must be approved by the Traffic Commissioner as a part of their operator's licence. But that doesn't mean the truck has to be there every night. When the driver's hours are up, he can't drive any further, and many truck drivers do spend a lot of time living on the road - there's a bed in the back of the cab.

He has to spend a certain amount of time "resting", but there's no legislation to say he MUST be asleep for X hours - so long as he's in a fit state to be driving.
https://www.returnloads.net/hgv-drivers-hours-explained/



So, yes, he can park up for that rest period anywhere it's legal to park. He's spent, what, two nights there in two-three weeks? It's clearly not his normal base. He's probably delivering to somewhere local that he can't spend the night. The truck might carry livery on it that indicates who the operator is, but any livery might be misleading - he may be a one-man owner-operator who's contracted to the company whose livery the truck is in.

Have you thought of leaving a polite note under his wiper next time...? Or just having a quiet chat with him? "Look, I appreciate your situation's not easy, but..."

Aylesbury_Duck

rajeshk4u wrote: »

it is obscuring everything out of my window. But it also a security risk in terms of neighbourhood watch, because people can't see my house and vice versa.!

Concentrate on the relevant and appropriate rules governing where and when they can park. Changing your view is annoying and being a security risk is nonsense, so don't dilute your complaint with those.

Car_54

rajeshk4u wrote: »

Last time, alongside this HGV there are another vehicle, a black shiny pick-up truck. Whilst the engine of the HGV was off, but the pick-up truck had the engine running all night long. There were people inside, so I assume it was the lorry driver and a mate.



I am in the area, where the police would not attend.... !

Parking with the engine running is an offence in itself.


What do you mean by "area where the police would not attend"?

AndyMc.....

Car_54 wrote: »

Parking with the engine running is an offence in itself.


What do you mean by "area where the police would not attend"?

What offence are you thinking of? It's not clear whether they were in the pick up or hgv.

rajeshk4u

I presume by "the front part", you mean an articulated tractor unit?

Correct.

The firm on their photos is showing a fleet of 10 or 12 trucks.

On their facebook page they say they are looking for a new yard....

The firm is local so anywhere from 10 to 30 miles.

rajeshk4u

AndyMc..... wrote: »

What offence are you thinking of? It's not clear whether they were in the pick up or hgv.

The HGV came in at around 5pm. But the pick-up came around 10pm or so. I could see the lights on the back of the pick up. There were people in the pickup. I assumed they were keeping guard on the HGV.

Car_54

AndyMc..... wrote: »

What offence are you thinking of? It's not clear whether they were in the pick up or hgv.

The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986 section 98

"Stopping of engine when stationary
(1) Save as provided in paragraph (2), the driver of a vehicle shall, when the vehicle is stationary, stop the action of any machinery attached to or forming part of the vehicle so far as may be necessary for the prevention of noise.

(2) The provisions of paragraph (1) do not apply—

(a)when the vehicle is stationary owing to the necessities of traffic;

(b)so as to prevent the examination or working of the machinery where the examination is necessitated by any failure or derangement of the machinery or where the machinery is required to be worked for a purpose other than driving the vehicle; or

(c)in respect of a vehicle propelled by gas produced in plant carried on the vehicle, to such plant."

AdrianC

rajeshk4u wrote: »

On their facebook page they say they are looking for a new yard....

The firm is local so anywhere from 10 to 30 miles.

Ouch. That could be a bit naughty, then.

Have a check on what their O licence says.
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-lorry-bus-operators

rajeshk4u

Car_54 wrote: »

What do you mean by "area where the police would not attend"?

For instance twice, I have a local yob, get dropped off by his friends at 4am. They will open car doors, play music at maximum volume and dance in the street and shout and sing. This would go on for 30minutes. No neighbhoors come out and challenge them. Despite me calling Police, they never turn up.