Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

Ballard

Takedap wrote: »

I'm not really expecting you to get an answer, but if you do, can you please follow it up with a supplementary question as below?

Only, I've been reposting it for quite a while now & I seem to be being ignored....I don't know why. One single link would do. It seems so simple...unless?

I don’t recall anyone saying that they wanted no deal back at the time of the referendum but several said that it would be a bad idea but we’d get a great and easy deal (German cars, Italian Prosecco producers etc). I will give the benefit of the doubt though. Everyone is allowed to change their mind.

Similarly it was once about funding the NHS but it’s now pretty much been accepted by all quarters that the country will be worse off but money is no longer important so I can’t see a Brexit dividend for the health service. Again though, everyone is entitled to change their mind.

SpiderLegs

Good to see people still desperately banging on about what motivations people had for voting leave three years ago. Like it makes any difference to where we are today. I do wonder if they will ever get over it.

Ballard

SpiderLegs wrote: »

Good to see people still desperately banging on about what motivations people had for voting leave three years ago. Like it makes any difference to where we are today. I do wonder if they will ever get over it.

I’m completely over it and as prepared to leave as anyone can be. I can weather a financial storm if one appears. I’m just curious as to whether anyone can answer my earlier question. It could be that the people who repeat the line about MPs being in the take from the EU are just falling for lies by the Leave side but I have more faith in them than that and haven’t given up hope of a sensible answer from a Brexiter.

SpiderLegs

Ballard wrote: »

I’m completely over it and as prepared to leave as anyone can be. I can weather a financial storm if one appears. I’m just curious as to whether anyone can answer my earlier question. It could be that the people who repeat the line about MPs being in the take from the EU are just falling for lies by the Leave side but I have more faith in them than that and haven’t given up hope of a sensible answer from a Brexiter.

To be honest you weren’t really one of the posters I was thinking about.

Can’t say I’ve heard any serious argument that MPs are on the take from the EU but if you’re basing that on Facebook comments it might be worth re-evaluating your sources.

The flip side of such rubbish is that there is plenty of comment on here about JRM and Boris supporting Brexit to line their pockets and lots about other rich people shorting the pound to make a quick buck when the inevitable disaster strikes.

FYI it is all total drivel, so I wouldn’t pay attention to either side’s made up claptrap if I were you.

Ballard

SpiderLegs wrote: »

To be honest you weren’t really one of the posters I was thinking about.

Can’t say I’ve heard any serious argument that MPs are on the take from the EU but if you’re basing that on Facebook comments it might be worth re-evaluating your sources.

The flip side of such rubbish is that there is plenty of comment on here about JRM and Boris supporting Brexit to line their pockets and lots about other rich people shorting the pound to make a quick buck when the inevitable disaster strikes.

FYI it is all total drivel, so I wouldn’t pay attention to either side’s made up claptrap if I were you.

I only gave an example of Facebook but it’s regularly quoted on the radio and on programmes like Question Time so there is a large train of thought that it’s true. On the other hand hedge funds did make a tidy penny on Brexit day. Crispin Odey boasted about it quite widely. Nigel Farage conceding defeat despite there being knowledge that Leave had won helped the hedge funds earn out of it. I don’t know why the same people wouldn’t be betting against the country for the exit.

As I say, I’ve long since accepted the result and am simply curious as to the thinking on the line I mentioned.

phillw

SpiderLegs wrote: »

The flip side of such rubbish is that there is plenty of comment on here about JRM and Boris supporting Brexit to line their pockets and lots about other rich people shorting the pound to make a quick buck when the inevitable disaster strikes.

Boris wants to be king of the world, the people who funded him are shorting the pound.

JRM's dad wrote a book about destabilizing economies for your own benefit.

Farage received money when he was MEP that he failed to declare.

Pretty sordid https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/oct/09/arron-banks-apologises-for-xenophobic-tweet-targeting-merkel

I'm sure the apology will be ignored by the target audience of his tweets.

phillw

SpiderLegs wrote: »

Good to see people still desperately banging on about what motivations people had for voting leave three years ago. Like it makes any difference to where we are today. I do wonder if they will ever get over it.

It must make a difference or you wouldn't desperately bang on about it.

Fran_Klee

SpiderLegs wrote: »

Good to see people still desperately banging on about what motivations people had for voting leave three years ago. Like it makes any difference to where we are today. I do wonder if they will ever get over it.

I think that no is the simple answer to that one. My suspicion is that even once we've left, these same people will keep blaming every woe and every little bit of bad news on the UK leaving the EU regardless of whether it's true or not, just like they do now. One can only hope that the tone of their argument improves but I'm not hopeful.

Moe_The_Bartender

phillw wrote: »

the people who funded him are shorting the pound.

The last person to make big money from shorting the pound was none other than EU loving, Gina Miller funding, George Soros. But because he's dug deep to fund the remain campaign, you'll find that OK whereas, on your planet, any foreigner allegedly funding the leave campaign is a reason to nullify the vote

Arklight

Moe_The_Bartender wrote: »

The last person to make big money from shorting the pound was none other than EU loving, Gina Miller funding, George Soros. But because he's dug deep to fund the remain campaign, you'll find that OK whereas, on your planet, any foreigner allegedly funding the leave campaign is a reason to nullify the vote

Both sides had "mega wealthy" backers. Weirdly, contrary to the grovelling obeisance we're told to unquestioningly offer them, many are actually pretty ghastly people acting only in their self interest.

However, just because leaving the EU isn't in George Soros' interest doesn't mean it is in the interest of a struggling office cleaner on minimum wage.