Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

Arklight

Tromking wrote: »

The job of Parliament is to form a functioning Government and if it can’t do that then go back to the people via a General Election in the hope that it can find one.
The current situation obviously suits the Brexit naysayers because it enables them to disrupt and delay the path of Brexit through the house.
Thankfully it seems that enough of the British electorate realise what is really going on and consequently BJ is hovering around 40% in the polls.

Parliament comprises every MP and the House of Lords and it's most certainly not their job to help out the government.

The job of government is to form a functioning government. The job of everyone else is to provide checks and balances to that government to stop them making decisions that aren't in the interests of the country.

It isn't in the interests of the country to be bounced into yet another chaotic election campaign when all eyes should be on Brexit. I appreciate Brexiteers want us to have the inflation and economy of a banana republic, but we don't necessarily have to have the revolving door elections as well.

Bozo can screw up Brexit. Then we can have an election to kick him out.

Sailtheworld

Thrugelmir wrote: »

IQ has no bearing when it comes to the level of common sense that someone possesses.

Stupid people do stupid things; so do intelligent people but on a less frequent basis.

Most people could do with brushing up their critical thinking skills but being more intelligent is a handy place to start.

Sailtheworld

Tromking wrote: »

The job of Parliament is to form a functioning Government and if it can’t do that then go back to the people via a General Election in the hope that it can find one.
The current situation obviously suits the Brexit naysayers because it enables them to disrupt and delay the path of Brexit through the house.
Thankfully it seems that enough of the British electorate realise what is really going on and consequently BJ is hovering around 40% in the polls.

You're just looking at the polls and thinking the solution to the problem owned by the Tories from start to date is to have more Tories.

Thrugelmir

Sailtheworld wrote: »

Stupid people do stupid things; so do intelligent people but on a less frequent basis.

Care to provide evidence to substantiate.

Tromking

Arklight wrote: »

The job of government is to form a functioning government. The job of everyone else is to provide checks and balances to that government to stop them making decisions that aren't in the interests of the country.

Rudimentary lessons in parliamentary democracy required.
It is the duty of every MP to coalesce around a group of likeminded colleagues in order to form an executive to run the country or take up a position on the opposition benches. Outside of that you do not squat in Parliament denying the country a functioning Government by refusing an election to solve the en pass!.
Our democracy doesn’t work if it’s elected representatives opt for stasis.
We don’t vote for Governments, we vote for individual MP’s who through their party affiliations then form a government. Here to help.

Malthusian

triathlon wrote: »

There was survey last year where the average IQ of the leaver was in the high 80's, says it all really. Reading this board I now have few doubts that it wasn't accurate, the Remain average was in the 100's, cannot remember the exact figure now

One side - Remain or Leave - has to be more intelligent than the other and it may as well be Remain. (It is mathematically impossible for them to be of exactly equal intelligence.)

The problem with trotting out this statistic is that every time Remainers trot it out they make themselves look worse, not better. "How can this be" says the average 100-IQ Remainer, scratching their balls in puzzlement. "How can being the cleverer side possibly be worse than being the stupid one". Simples. Because clever Remainers have somehow contrived to lose to stupid Leavers. Not only did they lose the referendum, but for three years they have been unable to outmanouevre thicko Brexiteers and annul the result, despite having their hands on all the levers of power and multiple tried-and-tested tactical options (the Ireland solution, the Swiss solution, etc).

The more intelligent Remainers are, and the stupider Brexiteers are, the more glaring the failure of Remain. It's like a Premier League team losing to a lower league team in the FA Cup. It's much worse to lose to a team of plumbers from the Vanarama Conference than a team of cloggers from the second tier. The bigger the gap, the worse the humiliation. Banging on about how clever Remainers are doesn't make them look good, it makes them look worse, it highlights the extent of their failure.

Am I saying that it's better to be stupider than cleverer? No, what I'm saying is that it's irrelevant. It's like debating who has the bigger biceps, Klitschko or Fury. Nobody cares, what matters is who wins the fight. IQ is a vital statistic, not a virtue.

If the demographic dice had fallen such that Leavers had the bigger IQ, you can guarantee that nobody would bring it up. But they didn't and Remainers do like to bring it up because it feeds their sense of inherent superiority and complacency that led to them losing the referendum in the first place. "Vote Remain or you're a thicko racist".

Dee_Best

Sailtheworld wrote: »

Stupid people do stupid things; so do intelligent people but on a less frequent basis.

Most people could do with brushing up their critical thinking skills but being more intelligent is a handy place to start.

The so-called "intelligent people" are the ones that caused the Great Financial Crash. Enough said.

mayonnaise

I wonder if the Brexit countdown clocks in No.10 and Tory HQ are still counting down.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/brexit-countdown-clock-delivered-to-downing-street/

Takedap

Thrugelmir wrote: »

IQ has no bearing when it comes to the level of common sense that someone possesses.

Correct. What IQ tests measure is the ability to access & process information.



The tests are designed to measure analytical thinking,mathematical ability and other parameters which influence their reasoning & problem solving abilities.


They do not attempt the measure the amount of information you have already learned, rather they look at your capacity for further learning.


All rather relevant to the point in case.

Herzlos

Dee_Best wrote: »

The so-called "intelligent people" are the ones that caused the Great Financial Crash. Enough said.

Because they were incentivized to take dangerous risks.