Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

StevieJ

Conina wrote: »

Britain yes; MP's (or at least the current crop) no. Wait for the GE which looks likely soon and you'll see if the electorate takes back control by the number of existing MP's that get the boot.

Will you be allowed to vote from your home in Benelux?

We had an election in 2017, the people have spoken (where have I heard that before?) . It is now time that the legislature aquired some nouse and some balls and seized control. Then a new referendum could be called pitching the Boris deal against remain.

I am getting mighty sick of the Govt 'off the record [STRIKE]lies [/STRIKE]briefings and the pathetic creeping of some MP's.

phillw

StevieJ wrote: »

Interesting article from Martin Wolf here is a smattering.

I'm not sure I agree, his deal is a deal in name only. It's equivalent to no deal if he throws his toys out of his pram in December 2020. Which Boris is almost guaranteed to do because he's a racist liar.

Of course a referendum would be good, because you really want to be sure that you are happy with yourself, your children, your grand children etc becoming poorer so a few posh white men get even richer than they already are (and are already richer than they need to be).

StevieJ

phillw wrote: »

I'm not sure I agree, his deal is a deal in name only. It's equivalent to no deal if he throws his toys out of his pram in December 2020. Which Boris is almost guaranteed to do because he's a racist liar.

Of course a referendum would be good, because you really want to be sure that you are happy with yourself, your children, your grand children etc becoming poorer so a few posh white men get even richer than they already are (and are already richer than they need to be).

I deleted the article, I am not quite sure what % of an article you can share due to copyright law?

Arklight

Conina wrote: »

Coming from a remainer, one who has fully supported the thwarting of a democratically-made decision to leave the EU for over three years now, that's funny. Well actually not funny but the mods here don't like the real word that applies so hint = pot/kettle.

I'm chuckling at the evident fear in your posts, now that your hated BoJo has got the deal remainers said he never would and got the approval remainers said he wouldn't get and you can see Brexit another step closer.

But it's big of you to accept that we deserve to see Brexit finally come to fruition. At last.

You have misinterpreted or misunderstood both of these issues. The "deal" he's got is worse than May's. The vote yesterday was to approve the processing of the agreement, not approving the agreement.

As it stands it has no chance of getting through without substantial amendments, including, most probably, approval for a new referendum.

Conina

Arklight wrote: »

You have misinterpreted or misunderstood both of these issues. The "deal" he's got is worse than May's. The vote yesterday was to approve the processing of the agreement, not approving the agreement.

As it stands it has no chance of getting through without substantial amendments, including, most probably, approval for a new referendum.

Very nice but you're already out of date; do keep up. It's looking as if there will be a GE soon -> all change with who tries to pass what since one way or another the balance in the house will change. IMO (& that of polls and bookies) Boris will get a majority so it could be pushed through quite quickly after a GE. Or of course depending on numbers Boris could turn the tables on the remainers and try for a no deal after the GE ..................

Arklight

Conina wrote: »

Very nice but you're already out of date; do keep up. It's looking as if there will be a GE soon -> all change with who tries to pass what since one way or another the balance in the house will change. IMO (& that of polls and bookies) Boris will get a majority so it could be pushed through quite quickly after a GE. Or of course depending on numbers Boris could turn the tables on the remainers and try for a no deal after the GE ..................

OK Nostradamus. We'll know in a few weeks either way, but the fact remains that your understanding of the votes yesterday is lacking.

Conina

Arklight wrote: »

OK Nostradamus. We'll know in a few weeks either way, but the fact remains that your understanding of the votes yesterday is lacking.

Show me where my "understanding of the votes yesterday is lacking" ? (This could be fun; I'll get my popcorn ready.)


ETA
Gotta go but as a forewarning I said "approval" but not of what. Laters

Sailtheworld

Conina wrote: »

Or of course depending on numbers Boris could turn the tables on the remainers and try for a no deal after the GE ..................

You're still getting too het up about remainers and leavers.

If he's got the numbers why wouldn't he just get parliament to rubber stamp his deal which is says is great? Then he can get on with his 'exciting' legislative programme and knocking off the 'easiest trade deal ever'. I suppose we'll have to see what is promised in the manifesto; as we know Johnson's word is his bond.

I wouldn't get too ahead of myself anyway - I would've loved to have seen your mug at 10pm on the 8th June 2017 when May was about to extend her strong & stable majority.

phillw

Conina wrote: »

Gotta go but as a forewarning I said "approval" but not of what. Laters

Squirming already?

Conina wrote: »

But it's big of you to accept that we deserve to see Brexit finally come to fruition. At last.

You think it's big of me to say you deserve being conned?

gfplux

Conina wrote: »

Britain yes; MP's (or at least the current crop) no. Wait for the GE which looks likely soon and you'll see if the electorate takes back control by the number of existing MP's that get the boot.

Will you be allowed to vote from your home in Benelux?

No, lost my vote under the 15 year rule. The rule is somewhat unusual as most democratic countrys allow their citizens to participate in national elections regardless of where they live and how long they are away.
Another illustration of Britain making its own laws and not needing to take back control as the U.K. never lost control of its laws.