Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

Zero_Gravitas

lvader wrote: »

Yes we are getting Brexit done :beer:

Don’t forget that “Get brexit done” is an anagram of “being extorted”...

However, quite apart from anything else, leaving with no deal on 31 October, is a actually only getting brexit started... we then have to negotiate the future arrangement, from a significantly weaker position.

Let’s hope the Benn “Safeguard Act” is fully enacted as soon as it possibly can be.

lvader

The SurrenderAct is unlawful so I'm not concerned about that

fewgroats

An Act is a law, Lvader.

lvader

fewgroats wrote: »

An Act is a law, Lvader.

It breaks the constitution so unlawful.

Zero_Gravitas

lvader wrote: »

It breaks the constitution so unlawful.

Care to explain why (with an answer based on actual facts, please)?

lvader

Zero_Gravitas wrote: »

Care to explain why (with an answer based on actual facts, please)?

It has to do with separation of powers between Parliament, the Executive and the Judiciary. Only the executive can negotiate with the EU, the Surrender Act interferes in an extreme manner with the Executives ability to negotiate. The Supreme court reaffirmed the separation of powers in it's ruling.

Sailtheworld

lvader wrote: »

It has to do with separation of powers between Parliament, the Executive and the Judiciary. Only the executive can negotiate with the EU, the Surrender Act interferes in an extreme matter with the Executives ability to negotiate. The Supreme court reaffirmed the separation of powers in it's ruling.

You'd look smarter if you stopped parroting on about the surrender act.

lvader

Sailtheworld wrote: »

You'd look smarter if you stopped parroting on about the surrender act.

The name is part of the argument, it's intentional.

Advice4sue

I’m really not being facetious as I realise there are very committed Brexiteers on here but are any of you on here who voted to leave in the 2016 referendum and are still in favour, not concerned at the problems a no deal Brexit would bring?
On a personal level I have many concerns but what about the business’s who trade with EU? What about the supplies of medicines.... I could go on but we all know. Yes no doubt in the long run things will maybe get sorted but will they be better than if we had remained in EU? How does anyone know?
Unfortunately (and I speak as a Conservative) I don’t trust Boris to sort it. Why would any of us? It’s well known that he would have supported Remain if that would have been better for his self promotion. So whilst he needs to go with the ‘do or die’ to keep credible, don’t some of you doubt that it may backfire spectacularly?
But unfortunately we as normal people and the economy will potentially suffer terribly.

Sailtheworld

Advice4sue wrote: »

I’m really not being facetious as I realise there are very committed Brexiteers on here but are any of you on here who voted to leave in the 2016 referendum and are still in favour, not concerned at the problems a no deal Brexit would bring?

Sue, there have been years of debate about sunlit uplands and wondrous trade deals but, in the main, they don't really care whether it's a good decision or not.

I'd like to think we might get some sense out of them after we've left the EU but probably they'll just move onto the next thing on the blame list.

They just want out at any cost.