Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

Thrugelmir

phillw wrote: »

I agree there are a lot of people determined against it though, I assume you're suggesting we put down our keyboards and have a second referendum.

Lib Dems are proposing to withdraw Art 50 if elected. Puts Corbyn & Co in a difficult spot. Fence sitting offering no clear direction is increasingly looking an ill thought out course of action. Split in the party must be simmering beneath the surface.

Arklight

Zuzel wrote: »

No you're not.
Not in the slightest little bit.

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Shame on you.
Shame on you and on all those others determined to ignore the stated wishes of 17.4 million British people in favour of your own corrupt desires.

Don't forget his perverted obsessions!

phillw

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Lib Dems are proposing to withdraw Art 50 if elected. Puts Corbyn & Co in a difficult spot. Fence sitting offering no clear direction is increasingly looking an ill thought out course of action. Split in the party must be simmering beneath the surface.

I'm not sure whether your observations are correct or not, I'm not sure why you think I care if Corbyn is in a difficult spot or not.

Zuzel wrote: »

Do not try to blame leavers for destroying the country when it is very obviously remainers who are point blank refusing to accept a democratically arrived-at decision.

Resisting a corrupt decision which will be bad for the country. If you decided to jump off a bridge I'd still try to stop you, I would try to prevent others cheering you on telling you that the fall will do you good. It's what good people do.

Zuzel

phillw wrote: »

Resisting a corrupt decision which will be bad for the country. If you decided to jump off a bridge I'd still try to stop you, I would try to prevent others cheering you on telling you that the fall will do you good. It's what good people do.

It's obviously impossible trying to debate sensibly with such a fixation on the negative that ignores all current accepted fact.
There was no "corrupt decision" other than in the febrile imaginations of a few sorry souls who have decided that because they didn't like the result of the referendum they want to ignore the result and so reject democracy.
There's going to be no jumping off bridges, falling off cliff edges or anything else.
(Unless of course certain frustrated remainers do so when we leave the EU in what would be their bizarre form of hara-kiri, but by now we know not to be surprised by anything some diehard remainers do or suggest. )
Making up such stories and then insisting they are factual when they are not is certainly not what "good people" do.


Even the Met. police have dropped the investigation into Vote Leave's Brexit spending, saying:

“It became apparent that the nature of potential breaches of the regulations, the criminal standard of proof required in court and the actions taken by Leave.EU to adhere to the regulations, mean that it is now appropriate to take no further action.”

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-investigation/investigation-dropped-into-leave-eus-brexit-spending-idUKKCN1VY1EU

I'm not a fan but I'm starting to think more and more that Aaron Banks is right when he says that the opposition are determined to slur and ruin but without a single shred of evidence.
At times team remain do seem far closer to employing Soviet-style dirty tricks than Putin himself.

BikingBud

Don't undermine Phill's cliff edge fallacy, it's all he's got to cling onto in his small Walter World!

Sailtheworld

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Lib Dems are proposing to withdraw Art 50 if elected. Puts Corbyn & Co in a difficult spot. Fence sitting offering no clear direction is increasingly looking an ill thought out course of action. Split in the party must be simmering beneath the surface.

I'm sure Corbyn logs in to take the advice of committed Tories wouldn't vote Labour if hell froze over.

BikingBud

Another example of extreme undemocratic behaviour is the ability of MPs to defect. They were voted in by constituents based upon a variety of differing factors, key in that decision would be the party they represent and the manifesto that was provided before the election. By jumping ship they again demonstrate their self-serving, egotistical sense of righteousness.

If they were true servants of the people they would submit to be correctly re-elected, via by-election based upon their changed priorities and newly claimed allegiance.

Cowards the lot of them!

Sailtheworld

BikingBud wrote: »

If they were true servants of the people they would submit to be correctly re-elected, via by-election based upon their changed priorities and newly claimed allegiance.

There's going to be an election in the next few weeks. What's the point of wasting money?

BikingBud

Fine let them sit it out then.

They have resigned and should take no further part in Parliamentary proceedings, until restored by the electorate. They are living a lie and their perspective is invalid until they are regularised by the process of election, general or by.

Does that suit you?

Sailtheworld

BikingBud wrote: »

Fine let them sit it out then.

They have resigned and should take no further part in Parliamentary proceedings, until restored by the electorate. They are living a lie and their perspective is invalid until they are regularised by the process of election, general or by.

Does that suit you?

Of course the fact that these are treasonous remainers has nothing to do with it. It would suit you no end if they took no further part in parliamentary proceedings. Not that there's currently a parliament able to proceed with much at all.

I can't wait until brexit is out of the way on the off chance this sort of bile stays on the Daily Mail comments pages where it belongs.