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Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

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  • lvader
    lvader Posts: 2,579 Forumite
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    Arklight wrote: »
    A good reason to oppose Brexit is the state of the people who want it. A Tory administration composed of liars, privileged Bullingdon misanthropes, and xenophobes - which on its best day has all the appeal of the Politburo. Heartily cheered on by the far right. Sorry if you're in the minority of "decent hardworking people" who support all that. But you need to look at the company you keep.

    Have you seen how violent left wing activists are? and yet anyone who is a regular centrist type is now somehow far right. Try to stay off social media for a while, you have been assimilated.
  • Herzlos
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    lvader wrote: »
    Have you seen how violent left wing activists are? and yet anyone who is a regular centrist type is now somehow far right. Try to stay off social media for a while, you have been assimilated.


    Left wing: 1 thrown milkshake.
    Right wing: 1 murdered MP.


    The arrest statistics for the rallies/protests/events are wildly different too, as are the threats coming from each side.



    Which side is violent again?
    Can you provide any citations showing the left wing is more violent than the right?
  • Let's also not forget that remainers and hard left are not necessarily the same! There are many remainers who are appalled at Corbyn and McDonnel, and many hard leftwing types who are not exactly pro EU (starting from the current Labour leadership)
  • adindas
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    edited 3 September 2019 at 9:17AM
    Tammykitty wrote: »
    You do realise that Gove is talking about a trade deal which the EU won't discuss until we leave the EU and not a withdrawal agreement?

    The withdrawal agreement is not a trade deal - it is an agreement that trade will continue and we will remain a member of the customs union etc, until such times as we get a trade deal in place - and if the EU won't agree a trade deal (what incentive do they have if we can't unilaterally leave the customs union etc?) the arrangements of the withdrawal agreement will continue indefinitely.


    [FONT=&quot]Exactly, it started from negotiation order. Money First and all other things EU wanted to get before they want to start negotiating about the trade. Trade deal, the damage to the UK economy, disruption are always used as a bullying tool in every round of negotiation. People who ever negotiate in their life should be able to see this sort of thing. It is only the people like TM and arch remoaners could not see this, for whatever reason only they themslves know. Keep in mind the negotiation order is not on the treaty. She should have walked away from the beginning leaving the country more time to prepare. She has been warned by two Brexit ministers, starting from David Davies since the start of the negotiation but she kept ignoring them.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]What sort of organisations negotiate as such using threat, bullying to get what they want?? Offhand, I could only think of few examples: mafioso type organisation, drug cartels, secret societies attempting to undermine the existing order, and extreme religious cults like ISIS.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]God saves the UK in the last minutes before it turns to become a vassal state. For that reason, for no-deal Brexit blame the EU.[/FONT]
  • buglawton
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    Herzlos wrote: »
    Left wing: 1 thrown milkshake.
    Right wing: 1 murdered MP.

    The arrest statistics for the rallies/protests/events are wildly different too, as are the threats coming from each side.

    Which side is violent again?
    Can you provide any citations showing the left wing is more violent than the right?
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/hamas-thanks-jeremy-corbyn-labour-leader-message-rally-pro-palestinian-a8917691.html
  • Herzlos
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    buglawton wrote: »

    When did Hamas develop a British presence?
    It seems pretty human to be against what Israel is doing to Palestine or do you support it?
  • buglawton
    buglawton Posts: 9,246 Forumite
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    Herzlos wrote: »
    When did Hamas develop a British presence?
    It seems pretty human to be against what Israel is doing to Palestine or do you support it?
    The article is about a (British) Labour party leader who gained Hamas' approval due to his sympathies. Or did you miss that point?
  • buglawton wrote: »
    The article is about a (British) Labour party leader who gained Hamas' approval due to his sympathies. Or did you miss that point?

    You can always tell when there's an election in the air.

    Can't be long before we start hearing about Corbyn's best mate Bobby Sands.
  • lisyloo
    lisyloo Posts: 30,084 Forumite
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    You can always tell when there's an election in the air.

    Can't be long before we start hearing about Corbyn's best mate Bobby Sands.

    Do you want it all censored?
  • Conina
    Conina Posts: 393 Forumite
    Herzlos wrote: »
    You're going to have to walk me through that one. Those that have the most to lose will lose because of Remainers, who are doing all they can do [STRIKE]prevent[/STRIKE] cause the damage?
    Try that, because if there hadn't been the capitulation of a remainer PM & government; if the UK had been united in accepting a democratic vote and presented a united front; if so many duplicitous remainer MP's had not gone running to Barnier/Junker etc. interfering - we would be out the EU by now and forging ahead but we are not, all because remaners are trying to stop Brexit. So yes, this dragging on and the stance of the EU is because of remainers.
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