Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

lisyloo

cogito wrote: »

What are they forecasting for the Eurozone?

I haven’t seen any that point to recession, fall in currency and asset price.
Can you link to any?

TREVORCOLMAN

Its raining outside.

I blame brexit.

:rotfl:

triathlon

TREVORCOLMAN wrote: »

Its raining outside.

I blame brexit.

:rotfl:

No, cannot blame Brexit for the rain, but you will be able to blame Brexit for loss of jobs and income and not having a roof over your head to keep that rain off.

Arklight

Honey_Badger wrote: »

Not at all, this was true in the 1980’s and 1990’s but is certainly not true now. Most of the equipment is general purpose and the UK support logistics are certainly better than the French. Don’t you recall the RAF recently having to support french troops in Africa?

Fair enough. It doesn't make Tromking's table more relliable though. Countries' militaries are measured in relation to other countries militaries.

The US is number 1, miles in front of anyone else; so far that it has no contenders.

China and Russia can be considered regional superpowers. They have little capacity to project power outside their own borders, but would hold out for a good while at least, against a US conventional assault.

After that you have the UK, France, Japan et al, who can't project power outside their own borders, aren't regional superpowers, and would be rolled over instantly by a US attack.

Based on this reality, Hamish's 3rd rate assertion is not inaccurate.

Tromking

triathlon wrote: »

No, cannot blame Brexit for the rain, but you will be able to blame Brexit for loss of jobs and income and not having a roof over your head to keep that rain off.

Mass homelessness now. Another one to add to the litany of disasters you Remoaners like to dream up.
I'm beginning to think you chaps inhabit a parallel universe to the rest of us.

melanzana

I tried to engage.

But it's more or less over now. Putin will be ecstatic. he will have achieved the UK leaving the EU for his own ends.

Will be interesting to see what happens with NO DEAL now.

lisyloo

Tromking wrote: »

Mass homelessness now. Another one to add to the litany of disasters you Remoaners like to dream up.
I'm beginning to think you chaps inhabit a parallel universe to the rest of us.

We certainly do have different definitions.
I don’t call 320k out of 66 million to be mass homelessness.
That means approx 65,680,000 are not homeless.

It’s bad that’s it’s increased and I do not personally support the levels of Tory austerity but that was the tories not the EU.

If we leave on WTO terms plenty of jobs will be lost, for example in car manufacturing. Those on the margins and those who are reluctant to ask for help could find themselves homeless. I’m sorry to say suicides will also increase particularly amongst males who find it difficultt to accept their failure as a provider.

Honey_Badger

Arklight wrote: »

Fair enough. It doesn't make Tromking's table more relliable though. Countries' militaries are measured in relation to other countries militaries.

The US is number 1, miles in front of anyone else; so far that it has no contenders.

China and Russia can be considered regional superpowers. They have little capacity to project power outside their own borders, but would hold out for a good while at least, against a US conventional assault.

After that you have the UK, France, Japan et al, who can't project power outside their own borders, aren't regional superpowers, and would be rolled over instantly by a US attack.

Based on this reality, Hamish's 3rd rate assertion is not inaccurate.

I thought UK, France and Japan are all capable of projecting power. Aircraft carriers, assault ships are all in their inventory, although Japan doesn’t call them aircraft carriers.

triathlon

Tromking wrote: »

Mass homelessness now. Another one to add to the litany of disasters you Remoaners like to dream up.
I'm beginning to think you chaps inhabit a parallel universe to the rest of us.

Well in that case just explain to me why so many of these property crash cult are ardent Brexit supporters, many of whom post endless drivel on how they are expecting a No deal to crash the housing market. We all know it apart from the sizable racist minority who just want a ban on immigration, many voted Brexit to create an economic crash so people with big mortgages would struggle and lose thie homes, they openly admit it, sick.

Arklight

Honey_Badger wrote: »

I thought UK, France and Japan are all capable of projecting power. Aircraft carriers, assault ships are all in their inventory, although Japan doesn’t call them aircraft carriers.

France has the Charles de Gaulle aircraft carrier, which has never worked properly. It's only ever been able to sail at half it's designed speed and has been plagued with reliability problems. They had planned to share a carrier fleet with the UK, a plan which has been abandoned due to cost.

The UK now has two full aircraft carriers, one of which hasn't ever seen water, and for the foreseeable future never will. The other was meant to take 70 planes, reduced to 40 F-35s due to costs. The relatively short range of these aircraft (1200 miles) means the carrier would be well within range of coastal defence missile strikes or a conventional intercept. Britain also doesn't have enough ships to field a carrier fleet meaning it would be reliant on an ally's navy for protection.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/829042/Royal-Navy-aircraft-carrier-rely-French-protection-war-Falklands

Prior to the arrival of this vessel the last time France and the UK tried to project military might was air strikes against Libya in 2011. David Cameron and Nicoas Sarkozy were far more keen on this than Obama. Although willing to permit the airstrikes, Obama expressed frustration that Europe's two big military powers were again unable to achieve these in their own "backyard" without American logistical support. Nor could either enforce a no-fly zone without America.

So I'm concluding 'no.'