Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

Thrugelmir

Zero_Gravitas wrote: »

On that basis of the logic in that article - Brexit Actual News: Less than half of Britons actually voted to leave the EU...

What's most interesting is you if take England and Wales and exclude Greater London. Such an overwhelming leave vote. These are the areas taking the hit of a greatly increased population.

Herzlos

Thrugelmir wrote: »

What's most interesting is you if take England and Wales and exclude Greater London. Such an overwhelming leave vote. These are the areas taking the hit of a greatly increased population.

Or it's the region's with less government spending and less exposure to migrants.

Herzlos

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

And even less voted to remain.

How can 45 be less than 37?

BikingBud

Herzlos wrote: »

How can 45 be less than 37?

Let's not mix the recorded figures of a referendum with the fantasy of a opinion poll.

Herzlos

BikingBud wrote: »

Let's not mix the recorded figures of a referendum with the fantasy of a opinion poll.

But we're talking about the opinion poll, and the trend away from Brexit? The thing that's potentially more accurate since the referendum was 3 years ago.


We all know that Leave 'won' by a small margin in June 2016, that's old news.

Enterprise_1701C

Herzlos wrote: »

But we're talking about the opinion poll, and the trend away from Brexit? The thing that's potentially more accurate since the referendum was 3 years ago.


We all know that Leave 'won' by a small margin in June 2016, that's old news.

Less people voted to remain than to leave in the REFERENDUM. People give different answers in opinion polls, then they go and vote. Opinion polls are notoriously inaccurate, what counts is the actual vote rather than the opinion poll.

And, as an aside, you will recall that most opinion polls said we would vote to remain.

Herzlos

Law of intended consequences strikes again, Brexit boosting IRA recruitment, so much for the border issuing being no big deal?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/new-ira-says-brexit-helps-it-to-recruit-vwc6b6l97?utm_medium=Social

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

Less people voted to remain than to leave in the REFERENDUM. People give different answers in opinion polls, then they go and vote. Opinion polls are notoriously inaccurate, what counts is the actual vote rather than the opinion poll.

And, as an aside, you will recall that most opinion polls said we would vote to remain.

Right, more people voted 3 years ago, we know. We also know the trend from all sources of polling from everywhere is that people are moving further away from leave. You can't say that polling was wrong once (on such a small margin) so all polling is invalid forever, except naturally any poll that agrees woth you.

I called the 52/48 result in advance (wish I'd put money on it) but that doesn't make me right forever.

phillw

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

And, as an aside, you will recall that most opinion polls said we would vote to remain.

We know the one that Farage and his friends paid to see didn't, even though he went on TV and lied and said it did so that he could swing the market and make a fortune.

But then everything he and leave.eu said was a lie, so it shouldn't be a surprise. I don't actually care how many people believed them and voted, it's an insult to democracy and always will be.

Enterprise_1701C

phillw wrote: »

We know the one that Farage and his friends paid to see didn't, even though he went on TV and lied and said it did so that he could swing the market and make a fortune.

But then everything he and leave.eu said was a lie, so it shouldn't be a surprise. I don't actually care how many people believed them and voted, it's an insult to democracy and always will be.

https://ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/eu-referendum-how-right-or-wrong-were-the-polls/


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-poll-brexit-remain-vote-leave-live-latest-who-will-win-results-pop

Herzlos

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

https://ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/eu-referendum-how-right-or-wrong-were-the-polls/


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-poll-brexit-remain-vote-leave-live-latest-who-will-win-results-pop

Your point is?

We know they got a very close referendum wrong. They knew it was close but expected a narrow win.

How does that invalidate the entire field of polling? How come Brexiteers are happy to stand behind the polls that suit them?