Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

Dippypud

Not sure how many on here are aware of the Robin Tilbrook high court case claiming we have already left the EU on the 29th due T May not having the authority to agree the first extension (or the second one but that is a separate case by someone else) coupled with parliamentary incompetence.
This story is effectively been ignored by the left wing media and the Biased Broadcasting Corporation.
Well worth a read up and seems to be a very valid argument based on the Gina Miller precedence. I'm not associated with Tilbrook, do your due diligence, but thought it was worth a donation to try and save our country.
http://robintilbrook.blogspot.com/2019/04/. scroll down for the techy stuff

BobQ

movilogo wrote: »

Brexit latest news: Less than half of Britons would back staying in EU, poll suggests

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/04/26/brexit-latest-news-tory-backbencher-bid-remove-backstop/

Or to put it in a balanced way, the poll suggests Remain 55% Leave 45% in an 82% poll.

BobQ

movilogo wrote: »

Try changing 4-freedoms to 3 freedoms by taking away FOM. Let's see if EU can be convinced.

If "we" are "EU" then we don't have to [STRIKE]ask [/STRIKE]beg EU to change the laws. We are not EU, we follow EU rules.

And you say a second referendum is undemocratic. The 4 Freedoms would change if that is what the majority wants. You simply think the minority should prevail.

Thrugelmir

Takedap wrote: »

The "Unknown Quantity" is leaving. Remaining has 40 years of proven success behind it. Remember being the UK being the "sick man of Europe"?

Germany likewise. Until a favourable exchange rate was engineered upon entry to the Euro at the expense in the 90's. Europe is slowly falling behind the growth and wealth of the Asian powerhouse.

Thrugelmir

movilogo wrote: »

Try changing 4-freedoms to 3 freedoms by taking away FOM. Let's see if EU can be convinced.

Non-starter. Little point in debating. Read up on the topic if you wish to understand the fully picture.

Herzlos

The bar would be pretty high to get the EU to drop FoM because it's so critical to a level playing field, but it's still possible to change and more possible from within then without.

BobQ wrote: »

And you say a second referendum is undemocratic. The 4 Freedoms would change if that is what the majority wants. You simply think the minority should prevail.

Many people seem to expect the EU to do just as the UK demands, rather than the UK being one of 28 states with a proportional representation. Ironically they'd rather turn us into a vassal state than cooperate with our neighbours.

lisyloo

Dippypud wrote: »

Not sure how many on here are aware of the Robin Tilbrook high court case claiming we have already left the EU on the 29th due T May not having the authority to agree the first extension (or the second one but that is a separate case by someone else) coupled with parliamentary incompetence.
This story is effectively been ignored by the left wing media and the Biased Broadcasting Corporation.
Well worth a read up and seems to be a very valid argument based on the Gina Miller precedence. I'm not associated with Tilbrook, do your due diligence, but thought it was worth a donation to try and save our country.
http://robintilbrook.blogspot.com/2019/04/. scroll down for the techy stuff

Ah, an audience member mentioned this on question time.
I didn’t know what she meant (Until now) but it did indeed get ignored and usually fiona explains something like - “you’re referring to the Tilbrook case about TM not having authority for the first extension”.

Arklight

This is an image of a UKIP party conference from 2017, when Farage was hailing Henry Bolton as the saviour of UKIP. He didn't last long after a scandal over racism (funny how the Right doesn't ever seem to be able to get over judging people by their skin colour, but then it they did that they'd have to stop judging people over their nationality, their income, or their accent too.)



Irrespective of what you think of the age divide over Brexit. How many people in that picture are going to be around to see the end of the next decade? Middle aged people (actual middle aged people, as in people who are in the middle of their lives, not those who believe they are going to live to be 130 and are only half way there) are 50:50 on Brexit.

Every younger group is logarithmically opposed until you get to teenagers, about 12% of whom want Brexit.

This picture explains why there is no real will in Parliament to enforce Brexit. The voters who want it are even older than the politicians who are meant to provide it, who are looking at a demographic to put them in power in the next election, who don't want it.

It is time for older people to pipe down on this topic, enjoy their retirements, for which they are provided for handsomely compared to anyone who has gone or will come after, and let younger people have the world they want.

Zero_Gravitas

movilogo wrote: »

Brexit latest news: Less than half of Britons would back staying in EU, poll suggests

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/04/26/brexit-latest-news-tory-backbencher-bid-remove-backstop/

On that basis of the logic in that article - Brexit Actual News: Less than half of Britons actually voted to leave the EU...

Enterprise_1701C

Zero_Gravitas wrote: »

On that basis of the logic in that article - Brexit Actual News: Less than half of Britons actually voted to leave the EU...

And even less voted to remain.