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Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder
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The trade negotiations with the USA have began. Julian Assange for chlorinated chicken. Is that a good deal? Perhaps a no deal is better than a bad deal.
He couldn't have chosen a worse Ecuadorean embassy to claim asylum in. If he'd chosen one in the EU at least he would have had a chance of a hearing before extraordinary rendition.
He'll be in a Lockheed within hours and on the way to the US with a variety of stops to compare and contrast cigarette burns and waterboarding in various North African and Middle Eastern dictatorships.0 -
He couldn't have chosen a worse Ecuadorean embassy to claim asylum in. If he'd chosen one in the EU at least he would have had a chance of a hearing before extraordinary rendition.
He'll be in a Lockheed within hours and on the way to the US with a variety of stops to compare and contrast cigarette burns and waterboarding in various North African and Middle Eastern dictatorships.
He was arrested for breaking bail and failure to appear in court in June 2012.
He later appeared at Westminster Magistrates' Court where he pleaded not guilty to a charge that he failed to surrender to custody as required for an extradition order to Sweden. He is wanted there on one charge of rape and another of molestation.
After a short hearing, he was found guilty of breaching his bail and faces a jail sentence of up to 12 months when he is sentenced at Crown Court.
He will next appear at Westminster Magistrates' Court on May 2 by prison video-link in relation to the extradition case
We are British, not American.What is this life if, full of care, we have no time to stand and stare0 -
Enterprise_1701C wrote: »He was arrested for breaking bail and failure to appear in court in June 2012.
He later appeared at Westminster Magistrates' Court where he pleaded not guilty to a charge that he failed to surrender to custody as required for an extradition order to Sweden. He is wanted there on one charge of rape and another of molestation.
After a short hearing, he was found guilty of breaching his bail and faces a jail sentence of up to 12 months when he is sentenced at Crown Court.
He will next appear at Westminster Magistrates' Court on May 2 by prison video-link in relation to the extradition case
We are British, not American.
The UK has a one sided extradition agreement with the US which doesn't even protect its own citizens from being deported to America. The evidence required for this is for the Americans to say that they have evidence that a British citizen has broken an American law, even if that citizen has never been to America.
They don't have to show this evidence to a British court of be in any other way accountable,so Wikileaks Australian Assange has no chance at all.
His lawyers will argue that the shouldn't be extradited on the grounds that he will neither receive a fair trial or be free from the threat of torture, but I can't see Theresa May upsetting her orange overseer for this uncomfortable truth.0 -
Enterprise_1701C wrote: »He was arrested for breaking bail and failure to appear in court in June 2012.
He later appeared at Westminster Magistrates' Court where he pleaded not guilty to a charge that he failed to surrender to custody as required for an extradition order to Sweden. He is wanted there on one charge of rape and another of molestation.
After a short hearing, he was found guilty of breaching his bail and faces a jail sentence of up to 12 months when he is sentenced at Crown Court.
He will next appear at Westminster Magistrates' Court on May 2 by prison video-link in relation to the extradition case
We are British, not American.
I am not sure that is now true, I thought Sweden had dropped the charges?'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
They have. He's been arrested for skipping bail in the UK woth an extradition hearing for unauthorized access to a US government computer. I can't see him avoiding it due to our precarious relationship with the US and their unstable commander in chief.I am not sure that is now true, I thought Sweden had dropped the charges?0 -
vivatifosi wrote: »Can I please ask those who favour exiting with no deal what it is a out the Withdrawal Agreement that you object to? I'm asking about the Withdrawal Agreement rather than the backstop, which is separate.
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Not that I favour no deal, the answer is one of the following:
- I am wealthy enough that the consequences of a no deal will not affect me. The WA may prevent us turning the UK into an offshore tax haven.
- Being able to send foreigners home is more important than any damage that leaving does The WA allows some EU citizens into the UK.
- Taking back full control is more important than any damage a no deal does The WA will lock us into a customs arrangement indefinitely. I do not want a customers arrangement however temporary
- Ireland and Scotland do not matter in my Little England. The WA just complicates things
- No deal will enable us to negotiate trade deals with the US and the all the countries that the EU has an agreement with. These deals may not be as good without the bargaining power of the EU but the deals will be our deals.Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
Malthusian wrote: »May's strategy has been masterful. Against all odds, it is mid-April 2019 and we are still in the EU. We will still be in the EU three years after the referendum result. By electing a Remainer as leader, the Tory parliamentary party indicated she had one job, keep us in the EU, and she has succeeded.
The Tories will only elect a Leaver as leader once the threat of a Labour victory weighs greater on their minds than the threat of Britain leaving the EU. Thanks to May's other masterstroke, calling the 2017 general election and resetting the clock, that threat is not imminent until 2022.
And sacking May to elect another Remainer would be pointless. May has succeeded in her job so far. Better the devil you know.
If this is the strategy why does she not agree to compromise and put her deal to the country in a referendum and allow the public to consign it to history? Or put it another way, how bad does she have to plan to be before having a public vote?Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
Watched Parliament today. No evidence of May compromising but lots of talk about her showing she is willing to compromise.
While I think that she is a terrible PM, she is probably better for the country than any alternative.Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
SpiderLegs wrote: »The backstop is most definitely part of the withdrawal agreement. I would imagine that if it wasn’t then we would be all sorted now and heading off to the sunlit uplands.
The words "back stop" are only mentioned once in the withdrawal agreement, and without much detail, which is why I've referred to it as separate. However if the withdrawal agreement is non neg, then is the Technical Note for the Temp Customs Union (aka the backstop) in the same camp? In other words could we leave but stay part of the customs union as the whole of the UK, ie no border issues, to then sort out the future arrangements once out?Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
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vivatifosi wrote: »In other words could we leave but stay part of the customs union as the whole of the UK, ie no border issues, to then sort out the future arrangements once out?
The tax revenues would come in handy. Better than continuing to pay. Likewise the price of many foodstuffs would be greatly reduced.0
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