Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

gfplux

BobQ wrote: »

To do that she would have to announce it before 1 May.

Holding a GE on the day of European Elections would be novel (or stupid) indeed unless we are leaving this week.Sure they were not booking the EU elections?

Local Council elections May 2nd
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_United_Kingdom_local_elections
European Parliament Elections
23rd and 26th May
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_European_Parliament_election

gfplux

Herzlos wrote: »

Hardly surprising since the young are most affected by Tory policy.




For some reason I thought the EU elections were at the start of May, but maybe that's the local ones.
23rd May is a red herring then, unless the plan is to host one or the other.

Local Council elections May 2nd
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_United_Kingdom_local_elections
European Parliament Elections
23rd and 26th May
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_European_Parliament_election

Thrugelmir

phillw wrote: »

Tories will hang on because of the people still fighting WW2. Once they peg it then they're sunk.

Poor choice of reference given current as yet unresolved events. No smoke without fire :think:

Arklight

Britain's once proud prime minster echoes the humiliation of her nation today as she waits anxiously to meet EU leaders and learn what they have decided shall befall the UK.

For truly, the towering stupidity and colossal hubris of the Brexiters was writ large this week as they agreed on nothing and were forced into a humiliating Brexit U-turn in order to save Britain from crashing out of the EU without a deal, and without a clue.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-news-live-theresa-may-deal-pmqs-delay-article-50-eu-summit-erg-a8862716.html

Thrugelmir

BobQ wrote: »

Holding a GE on the day of European Elections would be novel (or stupid) indeed unless we are leaving this week.Sure they were not booking the EU elections?

New parliament doesn't sit until September. No one to negotiate with at the EU after 1st July either.

Arklight

Theresa May is in Brussels out of steam, out of influence, and without a clue.

Meanwhile Britain holds its breath, desperately hoping that Macron will ignore the squeaks of Rees-Mogg and allow the UK to remain long enough to reverse the calamity of the Brexit decision.

Truly today, leaderless but governed by fools we are at the mercy of the level heads of the EU.

Moby

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/commentisfree/2019/apr/11/the-eus-new-october-extension-finishes-off-may-and-her-deal

Wednesday night’s humiliation, when 27 other nations decided our fate – a taster of Norway-plus or “common market 2.0”, where decisions are made about the UK without our presence – exposes the lies of the Brexiters and the impossibility of a strong and stable position outside the EU. History will recall that Britons did not value their power in Europe until they lost it. Theresa May, too, was humiliated once again but it does not cut deeply since she appears to feels no shame. She remains convinced she was and is right: that blame is to be found with her detractors and not with her deal or leadership.

vivatifosi

Can I please ask those who favour exiting with no deal what it is a out the Withdrawal Agreement that you object to? I'm asking about the Withdrawal Agreement rather than the backstop, which is separate.



I've read it following the link that gfplux posted a few weeks back, and can't see anything fundamentally wrong with it.

Takedap

vivatifosi wrote: »

Can I please ask those who favour exiting with no deal what it is a out the Withdrawal Agreement that you object to? I'm asking about the Withdrawal Agreement rather than the backstop, which is separate.

And while you're about it, can someone explain why the backstop would have been acceptable it if had had a "legally binding end date"?


A50 had a legally binding end date & that was ignored & rewritten so what difference is there?

SpiderLegs

vivatifosi wrote: »

Can I please ask those who favour exiting with no deal what it is a out the Withdrawal Agreement that you object to? I'm asking about the Withdrawal Agreement rather than the backstop, which is separate.



I've read it following the link that gfplux posted a few weeks back, and can't see anything fundamentally wrong with it.

The backstop is most definitely part of the withdrawal agreement. I would imagine that if it wasn’t then we would be all sorted now and heading off to the sunlit uplands.