Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

Arklight

This is why we need a common vote. A Labour, Lib Dem, Green alliance would bury the Tories in every marginal and take a number of their safer seats too.

Herzlos

cogito wrote: »

Who are you to tell other people what to do? You who isn’t above peddling fake news yourself.

So you have a number of candidates for unknown political entities who have no funding or other means of getting their views across. I stand by what I said.

You'd still be wrong though.

LHW99

This is why we need a common vote. A Labour, Lib Dem, Green alliance would bury the Tories in every marginal and take a number of their safer seats too.

Possibly, or possibly it would alienate a section of each party's target voters unwilling to accept certain policies from the other two. If it was so inevitable, its more likely the parties would merge or come to an electoral arrangement not to contest certain seats but support a candidate from one of the other parties

mayonnaise

56.8% of the Newport West electorate voted for a pro-remain party (Labour/Plaid/LD/Green/Renew) in 2019.
A constituency that voted 56% leave in an advisory, non-legally binding referendum back in 2016.

Arklight

LHW99 wrote: »

Possibly, or possibly it would alienate a section of each party's target voters unwilling to accept certain policies from the other two. If it was so inevitable, its more likely the parties would merge or come to an electoral arrangement not to contest certain seats but support a candidate from one of the other parties

Having spoken to voters from other parties the thing we all agree on is that the Tories are strangling the life out of this country, treating the most vulnerable with despicable cruelty, and creating scars that will last a generation.

I'm sure we can all accept some compromises to rid ourselves of them.

smipsy

So did we reach peak brexiting now?

After years of claiming we have no say or power within EU, JRM now says we should use our rights and powers to obstruct the EU as much as possible.

From where did these rights come now? Can it be, on the off-chance, that we've had them the whole time? :O

Does the word "backbone" or "integrity" mean anything in the dictionaries of these arch-Brexiteers?

BobQ

mayonnaise wrote: »

56.8% of the Newport West electorate voted for a pro-remain party (Labour/Plaid/LD/Green/Renew) in 2019.
A constituency that voted 56% leave in an advisory, non-legally binding referendum back in 2016.

Demonstrating that people have not changed their mind?

ukcarper

Herzlos wrote: »

That's why I said they'll feel betrayed either way. They were promised the impossible so will either be betrayed if it's cancelled or doesn't materialise. They'll probably be better in the long run to leave and see it as lies, as that way they'll apportion blame to the liars and not the remainers, and appreciate the EU once we rejoin.

If you think carrying out a brexit will solve anything then you're deluded.

You don't now why they voted leave and what they now expect and nobody knows exactly what will happen when we leave it's all speculation and will probably fall somewhere between the absolute disaster that remain claim and raging succes leave claim.

I don't think carrying out brexit will solve anything but the point of no return has long passed and MPs spurned thier chance to stop it in a way that would not cause the damage that is now being done.

Herzlos

ukcarper wrote: »

You don't now why they voted leave and what they now expect and nobody knows exactly what will happen when we leave it's all speculation and will probably fall somewhere between the absolute disaster that remain claim and raging succes leave claim.

I don't think carrying out brexit will solve anything but the point of no return has long passed and MPs spurned thier chance to stop it in a way that would not cause the damage that is now being done.

Nobody knows what leave voters voted for, which is part of the problem.
I've seen no evidence that the majority of them voted for any of the brexit options now available to them. The only leave campaign promise which will actually be satisfied is the blue passports, that we could have done anyway.

ukcarper

Herzlos wrote: »

Nobody knows what leave voters voted for, which is part of the problem.
I've seen no evidence that the majority of them voted for any of the brexit options now available to them. The only leave campaign promise which will actually be satisfied is the blue passports, that we could have done anyway.

It seems to be only remainers that say that.