Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

Arklight

Brexiteers are in a tailspin and hurtling towards the ground at 400 miles an hour!

AG47

These are certainly uncertain times. The best case scenario will still see impact on virtually everybody.

The worst case scenario doesn't even warrant thinking about, but the reality will probably be something in between.

Rinoa

movilogo wrote: »

1 vote difference in parliament able to override 1 million vote difference.

This is the real face of democracy in UK.

Indeed. Remainers won by one vote cast by convicted criminal Fiona Ansanya, who walked through the lobby wearing her electronic leg tag.

Moby

ukcarper wrote: »

Who made the mistake the vast majority of MPs who are now trying to stop brexit, they let the genie out the bottle and there is no putting it back in know.

David Cameron saw it as a way of neutering the UKIP surge. He was worried about internal tory politics rather than the well being of the country at large! Now we know every brexit option leaves us worse off than we are now. We are a laughing stock because we are clearly putting ourselves through a process which is costing billions and will leave us worse off. Every day we have saturation wall to wall coverage of the costs of brexit.....you can tell....apart from the purists people realise it's all going wrong....but they feel compelled to respect the result of the referendum....and make the best of it.....why not call it out for what it was.....a huge mistake!

Moby

Rinoa wrote: »

Indeed. Remainers won by one vote cast by convicted criminal Fiona Ansanya, who walked through the lobby wearing her electronic leg tag.

Get real, Fiona Ansanya is not responsible for the mess we are in.
Brexit is just a stupid idea, promoted by self interested charlatans.
Boris Johnson went through a period just before the campaign when he didn't know which side to come down on. He could have just as easily chosen to back his old mate Cameron in the remain campaign. He is a self interested opportunist and sees politics as a game. Reece Mogg describes May's deal as making us into slaves of the EU.....but he still votes for it! Gove has had more positions on brexit than there are in the Karma Sutra. He stays in May's cabinet and backs her talking to Labour. A man of principle would have resigned surely?
Some people are so naive about the politicians they have listened to but of course self reflection comes hard......it's a lot easier to say you've been betrayed!

movilogo

Fury as disgraced ex-Labour MP Fiona Onasanya helps Remainer rebels to victory by ONE VOTE on law to stop No Deal Brexit

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6885363/MP-jailed-lying-speeding-case-helped-ram-Bill-stop-No-Deal-ONE-VOTE.html

Sums up our parliamentary democracy very well. Liars are winners.

Zero_Gravitas

movilogo wrote: »

Liars are winners.

Which sums up the result of the 2016 referendum perfectly.

As usual, leavers want to have it both ways.

movilogo

Don't confuse allegation of lying with conviction for lying.

Arklight

She's a Labour MP, she's got a criminal record, she's a woman, and she's black. It doesn't get much sweeter!

I think the Express is actually about to meltdown.

ukcarper

mayonnaise wrote: »

MP's voted for an advisory, non-binding referendum.
Politicians' rhetoric (on both sides) tried to adhere some legality to it by incessant bleating about the 'greatest democratic exercise ever' (LOL) and the 'will of the peeple'..etc..

But I agree, the genie is out of the bottle, so let's deliver BINO for now (referendum mandate fulfilled) and if there ever is a parliamentary majority to take us out of the SM and CU in the future, we can do that. Sounds fair to me.

Legally yes but if you tell electorate that you would honour results and don't what does that do to trust also they also voted to trigger article 50.