Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

mayonnaise

kabayiri wrote: »

I thought all you Remainers were posting here to try and persuade others to change their mind?

You thought wrong.
I'm here to enrich the forum with my quality posts.

movilogo

So far I see DUP is the only party without any duplicity

BikingBud

phillw wrote: »

Right you signed up for weight watchers and you came round afterwards to find you were a quadraplegic, they delivered what you asked for.

Wow, how did you get to that? You should be ashamed, :eek::eek:you do not know what my physical condition is and the risk of your comment being construed as directly hateful is significant. Again probably says more about you and your doommonger perspective than anything else.

phillw wrote: »

I do wonder how the leavers will react when they realise what they are getting, I'm pretty sure none of the red faced frothing mouth leavers have considered that.

We are not leaving because Parliament cannot decide what that is, despite being given simple instruction from the electorate.

See comment above (quadriplegic really:eek:)and assess where the red-faces and frothing mouths are.

BikingBud

So if May goes who will stand up in Parliament, act as a true leader and deliver what the country requested and Parliament confirmed they would deliver.

I don't currently see any suitable candidates.:(

Takedap

kabayiri wrote: »

I thought all you Remainers were posting here to try and persuade others to change their mind?

Now you complain about PM May trying to persuade people like Mogg to change their mind.

Make your mind up, I say.

No-one is trying to change your mind. What would be the point? We have no more power than anyone else.



But the latest developments regarding Rees-Mogg & Johnson just prove what the Remainers have been saying all along. How does a bad deal become good just because the PM is willing to stand down?



Brexit is just a Tory in-fight that has got out of hand. Nothing to do with the best interests of the country & it's people.

Takedap

BikingBud wrote: »

So if May goes who will stand up in Parliament, act as a true leader and deliver what the country requested and Parliament confirmed they would deliver.

I don't currently see any suitable candidates.:(

Do you really, honestly believe that what the country requested was the hardest possible Brexit?



If not, what did they want?

Moby

Takedap wrote: »

No-one is trying to change your mind. What would be the point? We have no more power than anyone else.



But the latest developments regarding Rees-Mogg & Johnson just prove what the Remainers have been saying all along. How does a bad deal become good just because the PM is willing to stand down?



Brexit is just a Tory in-fight that has got out of hand. Nothing to do with the best interests of the country & it's people.

The DUP concluded, rightly, that May's successor, will make May look like a Europhile and would betray the DUP. Rees Mugg, Johnson and other Nutters have, stupidly, made it clear that they would rip up the WA. ('There's work to be done on it.') In plain English this means they would rip it up. ) The DUP quite like Brexit but are much keener on protecting the Union. They do not trust the Little Englanders of the ERG.

Centrist Tories don't get this. If May's deal is passed it would be a victory for the Nutters.

Now the Tory moderates should get real. They should vote for something on Monday which does not involve crashing out with no deal.

BikingBud

Takedap wrote: »

Do you really, honestly believe that what the country requested was the hardest possible Brexit?



If not, what did they want?

The country were asked and voted for Brexit! See https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=75352240&postcount=1328

But again we find the question being ambushed and side tracked.

So you do not have a nomination for a suitable leader from any of those elected to represent us?

Takedap

BikingBud wrote: »

The country were asked and voted for Brexit! See https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=75352240&postcount=1328

But again we find the question being ambushed and side tracked.

So you do not have a nomination for a suitable leader from any of those elected to represent us?

No ambush. No sidetracking. Just a couple of simple questions. I know what "my side" wanted. What about yours?

Takedap wrote: »

Do you really, honestly believe that what the country requested was the hardest possible Brexit?



If not, what did they want?

Malthusian

Takedap wrote: »

Do you really, honestly believe that what the country requested was the hardest possible Brexit?

If not, what did they want?

The country voted to leave the EU, with the exact nature of our future relationship with the EU to be determined via the normal democratic route. If the Tories decide to implement a Norway arrangement and the British electorate don't like it, they will vote in another party which has pledged to withdraw from it. Standard democratic process which has worked reasonably well for centuries.

This is the kind of simple fact that Remainers don't like as it interferes with their worldview that everything is extraordinarily complicated and no mere mortal can understand it.

Of course the crucial thing about the referendum result is that if the country had voted to Remain, the British democratic process wouldn't have been able to determine jack for the indefinite future.