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Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

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  • cogito
    cogito Posts: 4,898 Forumite
    50Twuncle wrote: »
    I don't honestly know whether a second vote will help the cause of remainers
    What will happen if (and this is a remote IF) leavers win again ?
    Will we leave without a deal or will parliaments previous "no deal : no leave" pop its head above the parapet again ?
    If, as I am fairly certain - Remain wins - the acrimony will start

    Riots from with people who have no intelligence, biting off their own noses to spite their faces ?

    Good time to start discussing a third referendum then. But why would anyone respect the result?
  • wunferall
    wunferall Posts: 845 Forumite
    Herzlos wrote: »
    I'm not sure we'd need long to organize at all. Brexit has been on the forefront of the news for 3 years now, almost everyone is entrenched, all arguments have been made.

    6 weeks to sort out the polling booths and get the printing done would be sufficient.

    You really ought to read earlier posts or you might get things wrong.
    Again.
    ;)
    BobQ wrote: »
    22 weeks will do it according to the electoral commission.
  • wunferall
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    BikingBud wrote: »
    Polling booths is easy.

    Who decides what the question is?

    Well those that lost certainly didn't like it simple, so if they didn't like the simple "in or out" maybe the same question might put them off voting?
    :D
  • Thrugelmir
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    BikingBud wrote: »
    Polling booths is easy.

    Who decides what the question is?

    Seems easier to leave. Then hold a referendum on each section of the agreement in turn. As they'll never be consensus for the whole agreement in it's entirety. Follow the Swiss model. Then we can move away from poltical tribes that aren't representative of the wider electorate.
  • Herzlos
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    Cakeguts wrote: »
    The problem as I see it is if you have a 2nd referendum and Leave win again that won't stop the people who want to Remain from complaining because if it was likely to they wouldn't be complaining now.

    A clear leave win would kill off any appetite and argument for remaining. If that 2nd referendum also had a clear result for a type of brexit, it'd kill off all the debate around what brexit means. Then the only thing to do would be to enact it. That it hasn't happened yet and leavers are so enraged about it is they fear they can't win it.

    If it's essentially a draw again, then I genuinely don't know.
  • Arklight
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    It would need to be a Remain win but based on a minimum turnout and a minimum majority to overturn the previous result. 60% should do it.
  • Herzlos
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    wunferall wrote: »
    You really ought to read earlier posts or you might get things wrong.
    Again.
    ;)

    We don't have 22 weeks, though.
    The snap election in 2017 only took 7 weeks if my skimming a calendar is correct.
  • BobQ
    BobQ Posts: 11,181 Forumite
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    Ah a new strategy

    A load of cabinet ministers + JRM +IDS, Raab, BoJo etc go to Chequers to come up with a new strategy.

    So the PM is talking to the Tory Party and not reaching out to others. Nothing new there then.
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 15,927 Forumite
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    May and cabinet are concerned about the Tory party first and foremost.
  • Cakeguts
    Cakeguts Posts: 7,627 Forumite
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    Here is something posted to me on another internet site. It basically said that they couldn't believe that some people in the north of England voted Leave when they had got grants from the EU. I have heard this one before as well.



    Now that is someone who has voted Remain without understanding about the UK being a net contributor so what else don't they understand?


    Without the cult religious tracts of the Remain cult religion this is what they come up with. It feels to me as if someone else is doing all the thinking for them.
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