Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

Arklight

Labour opens up large lead against the Tories according to Survation, the only poll to correctly predict the last general election:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/labours-lead-over-conservatives-surges-12165233.amp?__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR2CUmXOGIB43UFQEUyEOjN9kf263Cz1JWPSRTFzG-wh5fmOdTHQ2jojYyI

What now for Brexit? The Tories approach to Brexit is to politics what weeing on the ingredients then burning the kitchen down to the ground is to cake making.

How can anyone realistically pick up the shattered pieces of May's rank incompetence?

BikingBud

"The privileged minority who behave like a majority and who feel entitled to steer the whole of society from within their little progressive bubble as if by divine right"

Sums it all up quite well I feel;)

BikingBud

Arklight wrote: »

Labour opens up large lead against the Tories according to Survation, the only poll to correctly predict the last general election:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/labours-lead-over-conservatives-surges-12165233.amp?__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR2CUmXOGIB43UFQEUyEOjN9kf263Cz1JWPSRTFzG-wh5fmOdTHQ2jojYyI

What now for Brexit? The Tories approach to Brexit is to politics what weeing on the ingredients then burning the kitchen down to the ground is to cake making.

How can anyone realistically pick up the shattered pieces of May's rank incompetence?

And isn't this the biggest problem we have, mixing party politics with the democratic desire of the electorate? We were not asked in the referendum if we wanted Labour or Cons or Lib Dems or Plaid Cymru. We were asked; "stay or go?"

The Nation said go by a majority, some consider the majority to be so small as to be not providing a mandate, however in all democracy a simple majority wins. End of! Or should be but see my previous post and the link to an excellent commentary.

We have 650 MPs that are paid to enact the wishes of the Nation clearly not what they are doing. Clearly they are incapable as party politics and petty squabbles stop this occurring. We should have gone into Purdah, suspended party politics and given the job to those who were willing and able to deliver the Nations desire.

StevieJ

[QUOTE=wunferall;75592585]This is one inevitable outcome for MP's disregarding the will of their electorate:

https://news.sky.com/story/pro-eu-mp-nick-boles-resigns-from-local-conservative-party-over-brexit-11667069[/QUOTE]


You mean local Conservative association? Are you saying that the will of the electorate is to leave the EU without a deal?

wunferall

StevieJ wrote: »

You mean local Conservative association? Are you saying that the will of the electorate is to leave the EU without a deal?

Where did you get that from?
It's surely not that difficult to see that if the electorate which voted for an MP also voted by a large majority to leave the EU and their elected MP then goes against what they voted for, that there will be consequences.

Perhaps you're just of an inclination whereby when you ask for and pay for a turkey Christmas dinner, you're happy when instead you receive a nutburger.
Most of us aren't.

BikingBud

StevieJ wrote: »

You mean local Conservative association? Are you saying that the will of the electorate is to leave the EU without a deal?

That was the outcome of the referendum, unfortunately that seems to have been forgotten by many and currently be of little value:(

BikingBud

Some of you may wish to know about this:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/237487

PhilE

smipsy wrote: »

ah, i see. so not really unreasonable, incredibly evil demands, but negotiations. one might foolishly get a feeling that the poor little UK never demanded anything.

but i do understand that these negotiations were supposed to, in the mind of the people wanting to leave, essentially go along the ways of "exceptional and great britain demands anything and everything, and poor silly EU drops down on its knees and fulfils all the wishes"

well, going 100% as planned i see.

:rotfl:

Well put.

wunferall

PhilE wrote: »

:rotfl:

Well put.

But utterly and completely wrong.

Zero_Gravitas

wunferall wrote: »

Perhaps you're just of an inclination whereby when you ask for and pay for a turkey Christmas dinner, you're happy when instead you receive a nutburger.

Which is pretty much what the leave campaign promised, and what they actually delivered. Except it wasn’t even a nut burger, it was a badly-polished t*rd.