Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

gfplux

What is wrong with the deal on the table.
How does it harm anyone.

Has anyone bothered to read it.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/withdrawal-agreement-and-political-declaration

Before the referendum the bright future was the trade deal between Britain and the EU. If we don’t agree the withdrawal deal we will never have a trade deal with the EU.
Perhaps that is the plan.

fatbeetle

Sod the EU, go for no deal. It would be nice to have a chance to ignore Junker and his cronies "demands" for a change.

vivatifosi

gfplux wrote: »

What is wrong with the deal on the table.
How does it harm anyone.

Has anyone bothered to read it.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/withdrawal-agreement-and-political-declaration

Before the referendum the bright future was the trade deal between Britain and the EU. If we don’t agree the withdrawal deal we will never have a trade deal with the EU.
Perhaps that is the plan.

Thanks for the link gfplux. Interesting to see how small a part of that pertains to the backstop.

Arklight

fatbeetle wrote: »

Sod the EU, go for no deal. It would be nice to have a chance to ignore Junker and his cronies "demands" for a change.

I haven't noticed the EU making any demands. What would these be?

Brexiters' opinions of the EU appear to be formed more by a fevered and xenophobic imagination than reality.

Takedap

Arklight wrote: »

I haven't noticed the EU making any demands. What would these be?

The EU are DEMANDING that the UK government make up their minds.


B@$t@rds!!

sevenhills

phillw wrote: »

Confidence in the UK hasn't completely collapsed.

Wetherspoon reported lower profits for the period. Profit before tax fell by 19% compared with the same period a year ago, to £50.3m, as staff costs increased by £33m. The increase in pay was due to historically low unemployment rates, which drove up wages for new and existing staff, Martin said.


All employees aged 18 years or over receive, as a minimum, the National Living Wage as their basic pay (excluding bonus payments and other benefits).


Now that there are few EU nationals and the unemployment rate is at historically low levels, in other words, Brexit caused Wetherspoons fall in profits. I find that ironic.


https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/mar/15/jd-wetherspoon-boss-no-deal-brexit-lead-to-lower-prices

Enterprise_1701C

sevenhills wrote: »

Wetherspoon reported lower profits for the period. Profit before tax fell by 19% compared with the same period a year ago, to £50.3m, as staff costs increased by £33m. The increase in pay was due to historically low unemployment rates, which drove up wages for new and existing staff, Martin said.


All employees aged 18 years or over receive, as a minimum, the National Living Wage as their basic pay (excluding bonus payments and other benefits).


Now that there are few EU nationals and the unemployment rate is at historically low levels, in other words, Brexit caused Wetherspoons fall in profits. I find that ironic.


https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/mar/15/jd-wetherspoon-boss-no-deal-brexit-lead-to-lower-prices

So high immigration does force wages down.

Oh, and as people on here keep reminding us, we are still in the eu.

wunferall

Arklight wrote: »

I haven't noticed the EU making any demands. What would these be?

Brexiters' opinions of the EU appear to be formed more by a fevered and xenophobic imagination than reality.

I wonder if somewhere there's an alternate universe because in this one the EU have done nothing but demand since .............. oh, forever.
Since you disbelieve real events, this is probably more suited:

Brexit shock: EU demands Britain takes Belgium, gives up Suffolk

https://www.suffolkgazette.com/news/brexit-suffolk-belgium/

wunferall

sevenhills wrote: »

Wetherspoon reported lower profits for the period. Profit before tax fell by 19% compared with the same period a year ago, to £50.3m, as staff costs increased by £33m. The increase in pay was due to historically low unemployment rates, which drove up wages for new and existing staff, Martin said.


All employees aged 18 years or over receive, as a minimum, the National Living Wage as their basic pay (excluding bonus payments and other benefits).


Now that there are few EU nationals and the unemployment rate is at historically low levels, in other words, Brexit caused Wetherspoons fall in profits. I find that ironic.


https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/mar/15/jd-wetherspoon-boss-no-deal-brexit-lead-to-lower-prices

Yes, it must really come as a shock to you.
A pro-Brexit businessman who actively believes in improving the quality of life for his employees rather than remaining in the EU.
:T

sevenhills

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

So high immigration does force wages down.
Oh, and as people on here keep reminding us, we are still in the eu.

Having a bigger employment base to choose from is good for business because they have more potential workers to choose from, then it comes down to how many are unemployed.
If you have zero unemployed then you would need to pay a bigger salary to your workers, just to keep the ones you have.