Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

J_Nostin

Arklight wrote: »

250 companies in talks with the Dutch about moving to Amsterdam from London because of Brexit.

Great job Brexiters. Great job.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-netherlands-sony-company-relocating-ema-trade-investment-eu-a8742756.html

It says that such well-known British (?) companies as Sony and Panasonic are moving so if other similarly British companies are looking in to moving should we really be concerned?

LHW99

Arklight wrote: »

250 companies in talks with the Dutch about moving to Amsterdam from London because of Brexit.

Great job Brexiters. Great job.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-netherlands-sony-company-relocating-ema-trade-investment-eu-a8742756.html

Unilever was in talks to do that too ......but nothing came of it. Apparently the shareholders weren't keen.

MrAPJI

Arklight wrote: »

250 companies in talks with the Dutch about moving to Amsterdam from London because of Brexit.

Great job Brexiters. Great job.

It is easy to place the blame on Brexiters. However, it is David Cameron's government who allowed the people a vote, without even ensuring there was actually a plan in place should the nation vote to leave.
Reckless to say the least.

Herzlos

MrAPJI wrote: »

It is easy to place the blame on Brexiters. However, it is David Cameron's government who allowed the people a vote, without even ensuring there was actually a plan in place should the nation vote to leave.
Reckless to say the least.

I think there's plenty of blame directed at David Cameron and May, too. Not enough, but I don't think anyone thinks they are innocent victims in the whole thing.

ukcarper

The biggest culprits are the vast majority of MPs who voted to have a referendum who are now trying to overturn the result, which will have a very harmful effect on people trust in politics and has already been extremely divisive. If they really believe that brexit will be so damaging why on earth did they put our membership of EU at risk.

kabayiri

Herzlos wrote: »

That might be the only good thing about Brexit; getting rid of the likes of Farage.
I'll be happy to see them go as they have caused far more damage to the country than any foreigners, being quite willing to screw the place over for their own gains. Dyson at least invented some stuff but most of the rest seem to just be old money who've adding nothing whilst taking everything they can, and exactly the sort of establishment we should be trying to get rid of.

Everyone knows what Farage's stance on things is.

Therefore, it is up to the voters who elect him as a MEP.

If we end up Remaining, he is entitled to stand again in future, just as you are entitled to vote for whoever you choose.

kabayiri

ukcarper wrote: »

The biggest culprits are the vast majority of MPs who voted to have a referendum who are now trying to overturn the result, which will have a very harmful effect on people trust in politics and has already been extremely divisive. If they really believe that brexit will be so damaging why on earth did they put our membership of EU at risk.

They have access to an army of analysts and technicians who can run through all sorts of simulations.

Yet they seemed completely unaware of the way things could pan out.

In a way, I appreciate this whole Brexit saga.

It has shown me just how low quality our current political crop is.

BobQ

J_Nostin wrote: »

It says that such well-known British (?) companies as Sony and Panasonic are moving so if other similarly British companies are looking in to moving should we really be concerned?

Why worry about the loss of British jobs or the impact of unemployed Brits not paying tax or the schools and hospitals that they would contribute to the cost of? Its a downward slide, but as you say who cares. Certainly not the so called patriots who want to reclaim our sovereignty

BobQ

MrAPJI wrote: »

It is easy to place the blame on Brexiters. However, it is David Cameron's government who allowed the people a vote, without even ensuring there was actually a plan in place should the nation vote to leave.
Reckless to say the least.

The fault lies firmly with May. She had a choice to minimize the impact by staying in a close relationship with the EU. Instead she chose to appease her party and prioritize that over the national interest. Now she is digging a deeper hole for herself.

It would have been so easy to turn to the country and say this is the best deal I can get, do you want that or would you like to remain. Whatever the vote she could have said it is what the country wanted .Instead she is still appeasing the right in her party.

History will be very unkind to her I think.

BobQ

ukcarper wrote: »

The biggest culprits are the vast majority of MPs who voted to have a referendum who are now trying to overturn the result, which will have a very harmful effect on people trust in politics and has already been extremely divisive. If they really believe that brexit will be so damaging why on earth did they put our membership of EU at risk.

If this interpretation is true, why should the nation suffer the consequences of the foolhardiness of the MPS concerned?