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  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    edited 3 January 2019 at 8:13PM
    thread 4816822

    Quote:under A SAR is free. Ask for (as a minimum): - and a list of all PCNs they consider are outstanding against you and/or this VRN, and remind them that any claim must be for all PCNs in one claim, not several separate claims.

    that is when sending their DPO a SAR under the GDPR, it has nothing to do with appealing an NTK to a PPC

    Nobody told you to send an email to their DPO with a SAR


    you were told to appeal it on their website by inputting the NTK reference and copying the blue text into the box , unchanged, appealing as KEEPER

    this is once for each and every PCN they have issued , one for each reference number


    those claims above are for COURT CLAIMS for multiple PCN,s, not appealing PCN,s
  • waamo
    waamo Posts: 10,298 Forumite
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    This is the text I added:

    All of my PCN dates and reference numbers so could state that PE treat my appeal as one letter rather than several, which was advice I took from the forum

    The above paragraph is relevant and timely so I felt it needed to be added regardless of being told to send it unchanged

    Thanks again.

    It's this bit about lumping all the tickets together that bothers me. I'm uncertain if you have more on the way. It would help if you could clarify that.

    If you have more in the post they will argue that you know about them as you saw the ticket on the car and, on the balance of probabilities, having had several and knowing about them you were the driver.

    Beating PE is difficult at the best of times and anything that hints you know of several tickets lessens your chances. Furthermore lumping them all together in one POPLA appeal (which they will argue you have) gives you one shot at POPLA. Treating each ticket individually means if you lose at one you don't necessarily lose at another.

    Just my humble opinion but I don't think that was wise to add.
  • lastmanstanding
    lastmanstanding Posts: 24 Forumite
    edited 3 January 2019 at 9:11PM
    waamo wrote: »
    It's this bit about lumping all the tickets together that bothers me. I'm uncertain if you have more on the way. It would help if you could clarify that..

    I have 5 in total now, which I believe is all of them as the timeline fits, all postal.

    I do take on board your comment about lumpng all together so will make separate appeals based on that comment. but....

    as stated I cannot get past the PE portal page that states to enter the reference number and car registration, so I was going to send an email to enforcement@parkingeye.co.uk informing them of the problem and to include the appeal, but it does not seem to make sense to send 5 appeals to and from the same email address... does it? Or do I just send 5 appeals by 1st class post tomorrow?


    Thanks again.
  • Redx wrote: »
    that is when sending their DPO a SAR under the GDPR, it has nothing to do with appealing an NTK to a PPC

    Nobody told you to send an email to their DPO with a SAR


    you were told to appeal it on their website by inputting the NTK reference and copying the blue text into the box , unchanged, appealing as KEEPER

    this is once for each and every PCN they have issued , one for each reference number


    those claims above are for COURT CLAIMS for multiple PCN,s, not appealing PCN,s


    Got it, many thanks for clarifying.
  • waamo
    waamo Posts: 10,298 Forumite
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    Use first class post.
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    edited 3 January 2019 at 8:56PM
    ...now deleted...

    Please forgive me... I said I wouldn't post again, but I just have to.

    I have quoted exactly the sort of thing you need to avoid.

    That phrase tells me, and the rest of the world, exactly who was driving.

    The parking companies trawl this forum just waiting for people to trip themselves up and can try to use your posts against you.

    Read post #14 onwards on this thread for an example earlier today:
    Your opening post, and probably your thread title too, need similar editing.


    I'll edit this post as soon as I have seen that you have read it and edited your post.
  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    edited 3 January 2019 at 8:50PM
    and if you send 5 separate appeals, one for each pcn reference , if they accept they are in time they would issue 5 popla codes , which cost them money if you win

    if they deem any out of time, they will refuse them and refuse popla codes and require full payment

    if full payment is not made, plus if they win any or all of the popla appeals, they will require full payment or court claims (or claim) will be issued , for the full amounts plus the legal fees

    in order for you to win , you have to win on a technicality, which comprise of

    ANY POFA 2012 FAILURES
    NO LANDOWNER CONTRACT
    POOR AND INADEQUATE SIGNAGE
    ANY BPA FAILURES
    ANY ANPR ISSUES
    NOT THE SAME AS THE BEAVIS CASE

    etc

    so s sensible person would study those technicalities and decide if they can win or not before starting, because PE are likely to have all their ducks in a row

    there is little point in a scrawny kid going up against a fighting fit mike tyson, unless they have a foolproof strategy for winning, and in these cases there are too many unknowns and we know the reputation tyson has got

    let us assume that they have landowner authority, their cameras were accurate , they adhered to POFA2012 , they adhered to the BPA CoP , the signage was clear (like BEAVIS) , then what are you basing any popla appeals on? or court claims as your legal defence ?

    I would be interested to know because I dont see any technicalities, but you never know , but you even stated it was your own fault, ergo , you lose, the thread title says so !!!
  • KeithP wrote: »
    Please forgive me... I said I wouldn't post again, but I just have to.

    Your opening post, and probably your thread title too, need similar editing.
    I'll delete this post as soon as I have seen that you have read it and edited your post.


    Duly noted, I will edit accordingly but I am puzzled as to how the PPC could identify me from any of my posts..


    Thanks!
  • Redx wrote: »

    in order for you to win , you have to win on a technicality, which comprise of

    ANY POFA 2012 FAILURES
    NO LANDOWNER CONTRACT
    POOR AND INADEQUATE SIGNAGE
    ANY BPA FAILURES
    ANY ANPR ISSUES
    NOT THE SAME AS THE BEAVIS CASE

    etc

    Many thanks for the advice, I am reading up on those articles now!
  • waamo
    waamo Posts: 10,298 Forumite
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    You have 5 tickets in a hospital car park. I bet it won't be difficult for PE to figure out who you are from that information alone.
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