Do you want clock changes or not?

letitbe90

movilogo wrote: »

There is a news that EU (and possibly UK too) considering scrapping of clock changes.

What do you want?

I prefer summer time / BST all year. Dark winter evenings are depressing (especially while coming back from work). Don't mind going to work in dark

Doesn't that mean that there will be certainly more road deaths. Not sure BST permanently, as nice as the evenings are, is worth that.


Would a GMT permanently be that bad?

Jackmydad

letitbe90 wrote: »

Doesn't that mean that there will be certainly more road deaths. Not sure BST permanently, as nice as the evenings are, is worth that.


Would a GMT permanently be that bad?

Depends on what hours they work.
My memories of working "days" (as opposed to shifts) in the Midlands in the early 70s seem to be of dreary, almost dark Winter mornings and similar evenings going to work. Hours I worked were 08:00 to 16:30.

Herzlos

Over winter it was dark when I got to the office and dark when I left the office, so it doesn't really make much difference if it's an hour offset or not.


Back in the real world, the change means I lost an hour of sleep and the kids are an hour later in settling down to bed, so until they re-adjust I've lost a significant chunk of my evenings. I'll be glad to see the back of it.

Dee_1303

Herzlos wrote: »

Back in the real world, the change means I lost an hour of sleep and the kids are an hour later in settling down to bed, so until they re-adjust I've lost a significant chunk of my evenings. I'll be glad to see the back of it.

And yet there are no such complaints when similar readjustment is voluntarily done by the millions of us who venture abroad for holidays or individually for business trips etc., often also more than once a year.

Herzlos

Dee_1303 wrote: »

And yet there are no such complaints when similar readjustment is voluntarily done by the millions of us who venture abroad for holidays or individually for business trips etc., often also more than once a year.

Those make sense, and can often be ignored. The gyms in American hotels are often busy at 4am with UK businessmen. I can travel a few hours of time zone with my kids for a week or 2 and just stick to the same routine, but I can't change school hours to accommodate it at home.

Kim_kim

Herzlos wrote: »

Over winter it was dark when I got to the office and dark when I left the office, so it doesn't really make much difference if it's an hour offset or not.


Back in the real world, the change means I lost an hour of sleep and the kids are an hour later in settling down to bed, so until they re-adjust I've lost a significant chunk of my evenings. I'll be glad to see the back of it.

I like it going forward as I like the light evenings - but I want them to leave it forward permanently now.

Rich2808

letitbe90 wrote: »

Doesn't that mean that there will be certainly more road deaths. Not sure BST permanently, as nice as the evenings are, is worth that.


Would a GMT permanently be that bad?

The royal society for the prevention of accidents supports moving to BST all year round - as it considers it would reduce accidents. In the darker winter mornings kids go straight to and from school - in the evenings they take more complicated journeys and therefore are more at risk of being in accidents. So more daylight in the evenings and less in the mornings could save lives. Also the extra hours daylight from 4pm to 5pm means more chance for after school sports and activities in daylight. Similarly there would be energy savings.

https://www.rospa.com/media-centre/press-office/press-releases/detail/?id=1598

martinthebandit

Rich2808 wrote: »

The royal society for the prevention of accidents supports moving to BST all year round - as it considers it would reduce accidents. In the darker winter mornings kids go straight to and from school - in the evenings they take more complicated journeys and therefore are more at risk of being in accidents. So more daylight in the evenings and less in the mornings could save lives. Also the extra hours daylight from 4pm to 5pm means more chance for after school sports and activities in daylight. Similarly there would be energy savings.

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Ah another London centric idea, most of the UK however is somewhat further north.

Milarky

Can I say that living in the South, I would rather we didn't change clocks now and just stick to BST all year. I'm fully in in favour of this EU initiative even though fully behind Brexit. The curious thing is, if we did leave on 29th March as the [shall not be named] High Court legal challenge claims we did then would our government have not needed to commit to a decision to (say) stick with BST all-year anyway? I know there is a 'one more time' option built into this initiative but they were required to choose that also before the 31st March deadline and, presumably the EU officially recognises we are still members so presumably the requirement was met. But I have not found this reported anywhere as having been decided.


Any news?

Chrysalis

There is evidence that a shifting body clock is bad for your health, the twice annual clock changes are bad and in my view should be scrapped, I slightly prefer GMT as its simpler for +0 time management, but wouldnt be overly bothered if we settled on BST.