Do you want clock changes or not?

badmemory

Frankly don't care which they select BST or GMT just reallly hate having to go around figuring out which "clocks" don't change on their own. As in my computer changes on it's own & my boiler doesn't. So I would go with anything that says no time change!

Kim_kim

LHW99 wrote: »

I think that fouble summer time was used during the war.
I'm "oop north" (OK, north of Watford Gap!) and am happy with the current system.

I’d like BST in winter and double BST in summer :-)

Herzlos

phillw wrote: »

Because British employers are known for their flexibility.

At least with changing everyones clocks you aren't going to end up with different arbitrary rules being implemented by different employers.

For six months of the year you may have to pay more for your train ticket as you'll be travelling at peak times etc, or won't be able to park while you're at work because of parking restrictions before 9am etc.

I used to be anti clock changes, but in retrospect I think we would be way worse off.

There's been a biggish push towards spreading the commute load about, with more flexible shifts (lets face it, there's no reason 99% of office workers need to be at their desk from 09:00 to 17:30 every day). So if places had more staggered starts, you could potentially get rid of the notion of a rush hour entirely.



The only people that really need to be in for the 9-5 currently are front of house staff, and retail/leisure, but the world wouldn't stop turning if some businesses opened 10-6 instead of 9-5. They are just arbitrary numbers.



It might be harder to figure out new parking restrictions, but I don't think it'd be insurmountable.

phillw

badmemory wrote: »

Frankly don't care which they select BST or GMT just reallly hate having to go around figuring out which "clocks" don't change on their own. As in my computer changes on it's own & my boiler doesn't. So I would go with anything that says no time change!

That is the kind of thinking that drags us out of the most prosperous trading system we will ever be part of.

Let's say that it end up costing you an extra £5000 a year because of the downsides of not changing the clocks. Would you still do it then?

Herzlos wrote: »

It might be harder to figure out new parking restrictions, but I don't think it'd be insurmountable.

Of course it's not insurmountable to make those decisions, they just find the easiest option that benefits them the most and don't care whether it affects you (because it's what you wanted). History has shown this to be true.

DannyPearce90

What is the alternative?

PasturesNew

Clifford_Pope wrote: »

... people are free to use the light as they choose....

Not if you work. Even in summer you see that outside there's a summer, but by the time work finishes it's pretty much over.... especially if you add on the time to get home.

Rich2808

PasturesNew wrote: »

Not if you work. Even in summer you see that outside there's a summer, but by the time work finishes it's pretty much over.... especially if you add on the time to get home.

If we drop BST I will be looking forward to watching everyone wandering about at 3am to enjoy the daylight from May to June - while it gets dark at 8pm! Cos that would be the crazy situation if we didn't move the clocks forward for the summer.

Daylight at 9pm is useful - it is wasted at 3am. Think of the electricity savings for a start.

GreatApe

Better yet would be reducing the 6 week school summer holiday to 4 weeks and adding those two weeks to the winter Christmas holiday which is currently only 2 weeks

Having 2 weeks longer school holiday in the winter means less kids deaths as less kids and parents on the school run in winter darkness, probably less colds and infections as the kids have less time to share and spread their viruses and less time in the cold to and from school. and generally there is less traffic during the school holidays so better for everyone else on the roads

It would also make changing the clocks that little bit easier

Rich2808

GreatApe wrote: »

Better yet would be reducing the 6 week school summer holiday to 4 weeks and adding those two weeks to the winter Christmas holiday which is currently only 2 weeks

Having 2 weeks longer school holiday in the winter means less kids deaths as less kids and parents on the school run in winter darkness, probably less colds and infections as the kids have less time to share and spread their viruses and less time in the cold to and from school. and generally there is less traffic during the school holidays so better for everyone else on the roads

It would also make changing the clocks that little bit easier

Who on earth wants more holidays in January - when it gets dark at 4pm and is freezing cold or perhaps snowing. Your thesis only works if you assume kids are kept locked in doors - in reality they would be out and about more (and wouldn't be tired following school) so more accidents and deaths would occur.

Lets have more holidays in summer please - its for example crazy we have no bank holidays in the summer months - bar the last Sunday in August when it is getting dark at 8pm and autumn weather is often the case.

[Deleted User]

Saw this today - I wonder what the SNP's view will be?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47704345

EU meddling in internal affairs as usual.
And why exactly does Switzerland use eastern European Time?