Can I be told to come in early?

Barny1979

SummerSunshine2 wrote: »

I think people are failing to realize that

1) my work hours have been altered, at the last minute, without my consent or input
2) the work hours don’t reflect the needs of the business
3) the work hours aren’t benefiting me
4) I’m willing to work my usual hours

~all those who think I’m the ‘silly one’ are so Christmas minded that you think I should be ‘grateful’ for having my work hours changed when they don’t benefit me or the business.

Do your usual hours then, but come an emergency or some dispensation needed in 2019, don't be surprised if you're asked to use Annual Leave.

unforeseen

The needs of the business are not your concern. That is what your manager and those above are concerned with. Your job is to do the work asked, with some flexibility if required.

Your list looks like you are trying to dictate how they run the business and it needs to be in a way that suits you.

SummerSunshine2

Yes actually the needs of the business are my problem. If I request flexi time, and perhaps want to make this early start permanent, what will the business say - doesn’t suit the business. Therefore it works both ways.

I’m not a slave to my boss, let’s not forget that. He’s clearly thinking he’s doing me a favor, he’s not.

Les79

Farmer_Johnson wrote: »

You seem confused, no-one was penalised. You get a bonus for going the extra mile, for doing more than the minimum that the contract states. This member of staff did not do so, he did what his contract required, and no more, and was paid what his contract stipulates, and no more.

And yes, of course she’s cut-throat, she’s a senior manager in a major investment bank. She’s also very popular with her team and her management, and a wonderful mother.

If you are the sort of person who pays a whacking great bonus to people who do the bare minimum then I wonder how on Earth your high performers don’t get demoralised. How do you explain to them that despite all that they did extra the worst performing member still gets a bonus like they do?

Well, I suppose I prefer the idea of performance-based bonuses which allow employees to achieve them whilst still:


- Only working their contracted hours
- Having regular and full-length breaks


The only real point is "leaving critical work unfinished" which is a fair enough reason for not paying a bonus. But your post seems to suggest that a qualifier for a bonus is working beyond your contracted hours and/or having less breaks.


There's a fair chance that the workers are being exploited here by being given unrealistic targets which lead to either them not getting work done/paid bonus or having to go "above and beyond" to get the work done.


Not a fan of that to be honest. It looks good on paper, but it isn't always the best long-term solution in my opinion. I would have preferred it if your analogy simply said "this person didn't get the work completed or didn't manage their workload effectively".

Barny1979

SummerSunshine2 wrote: »

Yes actually the needs of the business are my problem. If I request flexi time, and perhaps want to make this early start permanent, what will the business say - doesn’t suit the business. Therefore it works both ways.

I’m not a slave to my boss, let’s not forget that. He’s clearly thinking he’s doing me a favor, he’s not.

Jobsworth, out of interest how old are you and how long have you worked there?

Manxman_in_exile

SummerSunshine2 wrote: »

I think people are failing to realize that

1) my work hours have been altered, at the last minute, without my consent or input
2) the work hours don’t reflect the needs of the business
3) the work hours aren’t benefiting me
4) I’m willing to work my usual hours

~all those who think I’m the ‘silly one’ are so Christmas minded that you think I should be ‘grateful’ for having my work hours changed when they don’t benefit me or the business.

What with the runny nose and groin scratching (from somebody you seem to be unsure of whether they are your boss or not) in your other post, I think you should find another job ASAP.


But when you go to an interview... you MUST ask questions based on the four points you mention in the post I quote above. They're bound to secure you a job(?!)


EDIT: It's only one day remember, and as others have said, you may want to benefit in future from your employer's flexibility for more than one day

jobbingmusician

I think people are failing to realize that

1) my work hours have been altered, at the last minute, without my consent or input
2) the work hours don’t reflect the needs of the business
3) the work hours aren’t benefiting me
4) I’m willing to work my usual hours

5) I don't have the social skills to realise that accommodating a SMALL request made by my boss might be a sensible thing which will pay me dividends
6) or the maturity to try to adjust my sleeping by one hour for one day...

(Corrected it for you)
No one loves their bed, or sleeping, more than I do. but I do urge you to think very carefully about 5) above. There are lots of books around about managing your manager and getting ahead in the workplace by doing this. You have an opportunity handed to you on a plate, to show how accommodating and flexible you can be. All you seem to want to do is throw the plate away.

Manxman_in_exile

Barny1979 wrote: »

Jobsworth, out of interest how old are you and how long have you worked there?

I think they mentioned earlier that they "were new to the world of work" (apologies if that quote is not word perfect) so I presume less than two years.


PS. I don't mean less than two years old. Oh - hang on...

SingleSue

SummerSunshine2 wrote: »

I think people are failing to realize that

1) my work hours have been altered, at the last minute, without my consent or input
2) the work hours don’t reflect the needs of the business
3) the work hours aren’t benefiting me
4) I’m willing to work my usual hours

~all those who think I’m the ‘silly one’ are so Christmas minded that you think I should be ‘grateful’ for having my work hours changed when they don’t benefit me or the business.

I wasn't so much Christmas oriented but I did like finishing earlier on Christmas eve, to be honest the work and phone calls dropped off considerably after lunch and went completely silent from about 2 onwards so finishing earlier stopped the boredom.

This year my hours have been altered more than an hour or two (I now have an enforced one week unpaid holiday due to how Christmas falls and my normal working days), I'm embracing the fact I will have more quality time to spend with my boys back from university unlike last year where I was picking up goodness only knows how many extra hours and barely saw them.

It's swings and roundabouts, being flexible is key to a successful career and it is only one day after all.

Manxman_in_exile

My wife and I were contracted to work a basic 9 till 5 but sometimes had to get up at 5 to get to other parts of the country, not getting home till 8 or 9. Part of the job.


I'm not sure exactly what the OP is complaining about. They seem to be arguing that getting in earlier and leaving earlier means they will work a longer day?