What vehicles can be driven on the road just on a car driving licence?

Car_54

Rover_Driver wrote: »

You need to go to the relevant legislation, which can be complicated as some refers to definitions in other legislation, and check if your use of the JCB complies with them.

For the 'Digging Machine', it ends up at Sch.1, 4, (4), Vehicles Excise & Registration Act 1994 ' “digging machine” means a vehicle which is designed, constructed and used for the purpose of trench digging, or any kind of excavating or shovelling work, and which—
(a) is used on public roads only for that purpose or for the purpose of proceeding to and from the place where it is to be or has been used for that purpose, and
(b) when so proceeding does not carry any load except such as is necessary for its propulsion or equipment.


For the 'Engineering Plant', it is Reg.3, (2), The Road Vehicles (Construction & Use) Regulations 1986. ' Movable Plant or Equipment being a motor vehicle or trailer specially designed and constructed for the special purposes of engineering operations, and which cannot, owing to the requirements of those purposes, comply with all the requirements of these Regulations and which is not constructed primarily to carry a load other than a load being either excavated materials raised from the ground by apparatus on the motor vehicle or trailer or materials which the vehicle or trailer is specially designed to treat while carried thereon'.

The latter definition is preceeded by the words "In these Regulations...". Since this is not a C & U issue, it is irrelevant.

Rover_Driver

Car_54 wrote: »

The latter definition is preceeded by the words "In these Regulations...". Since this is not a C & U issue, it is irrelevant.

That is one of the problems where the definition is in a different piece of legislation. In the above case, it is not a C & U issue but a licensing one, but it uses the C & U definition.

Andy_L

Rover_Driver wrote: »

That is one of the problems where the definition is in a different piece of legislation. In the above case, it is not a C & U issue but a licensing one, but it uses the C & U definition.

Although it does mean you don't have to change 2(or more) pieces of legislation if you need to change a definition or end up with the same term meaning different things in different circumstances

Car_54

Rover_Driver wrote: »

That is one of the problems where the definition is in a different piece of legislation. In the above case, it is not a C & U issue but a licensing one, but it uses the C & U definition.

I may have missed it, but has anyone found the licensing legislation which supports statements in the DVLA leaflet?

Rover_Driver

Car_54 wrote: »

I may have missed it, but has anyone found the licensing legislation which supports statements in the DVLA leaflet?

For the 'Digging Machines' it is Reg.51,(1),(g), The Motor Vehicles (Driving Licences) Regulations 1999.

Car_54

Rover_Driver wrote: »

For the 'Digging Machines' it is Reg.51,(1),(g), The Motor Vehicles (Driving Licences) Regulations 1999.

Thanks very much.

Scrapit

So in answer to the OPs question, " can I legally drive this JCb?" The answer is clear. No you can't. You don't have any training.

Car_54

Scrapit wrote: »

So in answer to the OPs question, " can I legally drive this JCb?" The answer is clear. No you can't. You don't have any training.

So far as driving on the road is concerned, he has had training, and has a licence to prove it.

Scrapit

Car_54 wrote: »

So far as driving on the road is concerned, he has had training, and has a licence to prove it.

But not if doing for work as he falls foul of the law, HSAWA, and the regulations (basically the law without being an act) PUWER, so again, the answer to his question is : no, you can't legally drive it.

Samsung_Note2

Always thought it was 1000yds on the road....assuming insurance and tax in place.

CPCS Telehandler and ADT...was told on both courses the above.