What vehicles can be driven on the road just on a car driving licence?

Andy_L

Insert_Nut wrote: »

Well I'm not felling any trees nor am I tending to any cattle. I'd be shovelling building materials / rubble and dumping it in to the trailer of a 34 ton / 44 ton vehicle.

So you can't drive it on the road under your Cat f "agricultural tractor" entitlement

Scrapit

Andy_L wrote: »

So you can't drive it on the road under your Cat f "agricultural tractor" entitlement

Its classed as mobile plant so not relevant.

Scrapit

Insert_Nut wrote: »

With so many different departments at the DVLA and how I can't post links as a new member are you able to advise which is the correct DVLA address to write to?


I've had a look through on their website and a bit unsure which category my query falls in to so not totally sure which department to write to.


I say write because if the answer comes back as I can then great but if it comes back as I can't then I can't exactly show my employer a phone call - and they will be wanting to see proof that I can't drive it if that is to be the case.

The onus is on them to prove you can. You work for them and if you didn't someone else would, the constant is the employees and the role they require. Therefore they require to prove the legitimacy.

Rover_Driver

The 'B' category limit is 3500kg, if the JCB is heavier than that you will not be covered.
The question is, is the JCB an agricultural tractor - category 'F'? From what has been posted, it isn't, so you would not be covered for that either.

Scrapit

Insert_Nut wrote: »

You must be joking!


Without doubt it'll be: it'll be that little #;'#@:@~~:@ again.
Others do this without asking because either 1) they don't care 2) they're told they can so they accept it (wonder if they got told they could jump off a bridge and live would they try it?) 3) the classic .... "it's only" x-distance down the road "nothing bad will happen in that distance so it's ok".
I'm the only one to question it and they wont know it's anything to do with me?


Even if I wasn't the only one to question it, if HSE was brought in then straight away I guarantee you right now the spotlight would be on me as the reason why.


I need a job & I have to work there, that's not worth the daily grief to me. Sure I don't mind asking DVLA anonymously, but to start bringing HSE down and causing a whole load of grief for myself?

How would that work if the HSE are contacted anonymously?
The hse have more power than the police, can and will turn up anywhere they want without warning and will be granted access without a warrant. As an employeer your boss should expect a visit.
If your not going to take advice crack on, it'll probbably be fine. But if it ain't it's on you and your boss. This is clearly defined in law.

Scrapit

Rover_Driver wrote: »

The 'B' category limit is 3500kg, if the JCB is heavier than that you will not be covered.
The question is, is the JCB an agricultural tractor - category 'F'? From what has been posted, it isn't, so you would not be covered for that either.

Again it's mobile plant so not relevant.

Rover_Driver

The OP would only be covered by a (B) licence travelling on the road to and from sites where it is used for digging or shovelling, not for using it on a road.


(from the DVLA leaflet 'Large vehicles you can drive using your car or lorry licence'.)

Andy_L

Scrapit wrote: »

Its classed as mobile plant so not relevant.

The OP's boss was saying it could be driven under cat f so I'd say conclusive proof it can't be is very useful to the OP.

Insert_Nut

Scrapit wrote: »

How would that work if the HSE are contacted anonymously?
The hse have more power than the police, can and will turn up anywhere they want without warning and will be granted access without a warrant. As an employeer your boss should expect a visit.
If your not going to take advice crack on, it'll probbably be fine. But if it ain't it's on you and your boss. This is clearly defined in law.

How would it work? Think about it. Everyone is ok about driving it but one employee has just questioned it & this employee is the only one to do so. 5 minutes later the HSE are all over the place asking about this machine.


My boss isn't stupid. Doesn't take a genius to work out that the HSE will be there because of me.


Even if everyone had complained and the HSE were there, I'd still be labelled as 'the one' simply due to once-upon-a-time that's the sort of thing I'd do - challenge everything & go heavy handed. It got my nowhere but poor treatment and I was miserable at work.


Now things have changed. I try my best to not get involved like that any more, just get on and do my job and overall things have improved massively in terms of the way I am treated. It's now an enjoyable place to work overall.

If your not going to take advice crack on

Well I clearly am taking advice. I've been advised about contacting companies & that's what I'm trying to do and since the DVLA has 101 departments that's why I came here this morning to ask for clarification on the address of the correct department, because I'm following the advice given.

This is clearly defined in law.

If it was so clear then why are you and Andy disagreeing? If it's clear then there should be no dispute?!


See to me your disagreement is like Andy is my boss and you are me. Who's right? I don't know. You can't both be right although you both are sure that you're the one who's right.


My boss will be as convincing as you two are. I can't do that. If I'm not sure then I'm not sure, I can't sit there & bullshhhh someone that I know what I'm talking about if I know I don't.


The other side is that sure people can be wrong too. Just because someone is sure they're right doesn't mean they are.


No offence, the help is very much appreciated. I'd just like to contact an official body to get word on what the situation is. Just that the DVLA has so many offices.

Rover_Driver

Check the DVLA's leaflet INF52 - 'Large vehicles you can drive using your car or lorry licence'. It mentions the restriction about driving your type of vehicle on a 'B' licence.