If there is a second referendum ...

Thrugelmir

MobileSaver wrote: »

That had crossed my mind but that would mean we would all be paying just £16 a year extra to pay off the interest which makes the original "large sum of money" comment look even more ridiculous.

I'm sure that many people would prefer the £16 in their pockets. Given the fact that the National Debt is increasing every year at the current time. Which will result in even greater pressure in providing public services that are demanded. Let alone the demands for increased levels of remuneration to cope with inflationary cost increases. Nor forget that the £16 is in itself borrowed.

Herzlos

If you're worried about £16 in the pockets of the people, surely you're more worried about the economic damage from brexit, rather than the divorce fee?

UK national debt is at 2.14 trillion, adding another 39bn (1.8%) isn't going to make much difference, especially if we're deliberately making ourselves poorer anyway.

Arklight

cogito wrote: »

You need to open your eyes and see the EU for what it is - sly, devious and untrustworthy. The EU never does anything in good faith and the biggest mistake that the UK government made was to assume that it does.

Every political entity is sly, devious and untrustworthy to greater or lesser extents. You think the UK is any different?

The pertinent point is that the era of plucky small-medium sized countries going it alone has long gone. The EU is the only game in town for Britain, and we had at least a loud voice there.

We will have nothing in the new world order you Brexit people want.

cogito

Herzlos wrote: »

Are you talking about the same EU? What's it done that's sly, devious or untrustworthy?

Ask the Greeks.

You might also ask why the Brexit strings are not being pulled by the eminently reasonable Michel Barnier but by the psychopathic Martin Selmayr whose name has never been on a ballot paper but has elbowed his way to the top. He's despised as much in Brussels as he is in the UK.

cogito

Arklight wrote: »

Every political entity is sly, devious and untrustworthy to greater or lesser extents. You think the UK is any different?

The pertinent point is that the era of plucky small-medium sized countries going it alone has long gone. The EU is the only game in town for Britain, and we had at least a loud voice there.

We will have nothing in the new world order you Brexit people want.

I don't think that the UK is any different. The fact that parliament is stuffed with remainer MPs who will do anything to keep us chained to the EU is proof enough of that.

gfplux

So it’s agreed. There will be no further referendum.

Great.

So let’s agree the withdrawal/transition/outline political declaration (deal) and get on with the trade talks with the EU in April.

gfplux

Those Brexiter posters who don’t want to agree the deal, don’t want a further referendum but prefer a no deal what are you stockpiling?

Medicine, tinned food, pasta, rice, bottled water and toilet paper appear at the top of most people’s lists.

Do the cliff edge Brexiters have any other suggestions. Do they also have any suggestions for those who have no money to stockpile.

cogito

gfplux wrote: »

Those Brexiter posters who don’t want to agree the deal, don’t want a further referendum but prefer a no deal what are you stockpiling?

Medicine, tinned food, pasta, rice, bottled water and toilet paper appear at the top of most people’s lists.

Do the cliff edge Brexiters have any other suggestions. Do they also have any suggestions for those who have no money to stockpile.

I'm not stockpiling anything and neither is anyone else with more than one brain cell. Why would you think otherwise?

Moe_The_Bartender

cogito wrote: »

I'm not stockpiling anything and neither is anyone else with more than one brain cell. Why would you think otherwise?

Stockpiling is a self fulfilling prophecy. People listen to the BBC and rush out to buy things emptying the supermarkets shelves so that the BBC can then send out a film crew and say 'See. We told you so'. The sheeple then chuck away the stuff they bought a couple of weeks later because it's gone past its use by date.

BobQ

Moe_The_Bartender wrote: »

Stockpiling is a self fulfilling prophecy. People listen to the BBC and rush out to buy things emptying the supermarkets shelves so that the BBC can then send out a film crew and say 'See. We told you so'. The sheeple then chuck away the stuff they bought a couple of weeks later because it's gone past its use by date.

Very difficult to differentiate between those stocking up for Brexit, for parties or for business reasons.