If there is a second referendum ...

Herzlos

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Sometimes I wonder if people understand what they are saying. I hate to think what is considered a large sum of money. Nor how this money is actually raised from us the taxpayers. .

It's all aboit perspective. 39bn is a big number for most things, but is a small monney when national economies are involvee. The UK exports £274bn to the EU every year. The best case brexit scenarios have losses of more than 39bn to our economy.

gfplux

Has the possibility of another referendum gone away?

Even posters here are not mentioning it.

Herzlos

It seems another referendum has been sunk, so unless May comes back from Brussels with something spectacular, it'll be no brexit and a huge wasted opportunity.

MobileSaver

Herzlos wrote: »

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Sometimes I wonder if people understand what they are saying. I hate to think what is considered a large sum of money.

It's all about perspective. 39bn is a big number for most things, but is a small money when national economies are involvee.

+1

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that Leavers can't take a step back and look at the big picture but I do despair sometimes at the tunnel vision expressed here.

Everything in life is relative and so, while at first glance £39bn may seem a lot, if you think about it for a second you realise it equates to only £590 per head of the UK population. That's a one-off cost that is around the same as the average Sky TV subscriber pays every year!

phillw

Right. Asking for 39 billion back is like asking for a refund of your £2 lottery ticket with six matched numbers because the daily mail conned you into forgoing your prize.

Enterprise_1701C

You are getting quite ridiculous phillw, we are not asking for £39 billion back, the eu have not negotiated in good faith so if we leave without a deal why would we pay what we would pay for a deal? Of course, if they then actually give us a trade deal they can have the money.

It is more like some mafiosa saying they have kidnapped someone who may or may not be relevant to you, if you pay us X then you can find out who it is but then you will have to pay us more if you want to have that person back

phillw

Its you who is increasingly ridiculous, which I'm surprised was possible. The EU negotiated in good faith and agreed to the back stop we proposed.

Until you open your eyes and see the EU isn't the threat that you have been convinced they are, then your opinions will be continue to be seen in the negative light they deserve.

Thrugelmir

MobileSaver wrote: »

if you think about it for a second you realise it equates to only £590 per head of the UK population. That's a one-off cost that is around the same as the average Sky TV subscriber pays every year!

Not a one off cost. The servicing cost of the debt remains (currently) infinitum. Sky subscription can be cancelled. Whereas Government debt can only be defaulted on. Given the UK's dependence on Financial Services for generating wealth. Then this would impact the economy as a whole. With the rise of emerging countries the ability to deflate away debt using inflation isn't going to be so easy.

MobileSaver

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Not a one off cost. The servicing cost of the debt remains (currently) infinitum.

Now you are being silly. The £590 per person is a one-off and is not payable every year.

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Sky subscription can be cancelled.

Yes, Sky TV can be cancelled but you cannot join Sky and just walk away a few months later without paying the rest of what you previously agreed to... sound familiar?

smipsy

MobileSaver wrote: »

Yes, Sky TV can be cancelled but you cannot join Sky and just walk away a few months later without paying the rest of what you previously agreed to... sound familiar?

funnily enough, I know of people who've approached this the same they approached Brexit, just that it was BT, not Sky. decided to cancel mid-contract, and argued that they can just walk away without paying previously agreed, and their thoughts on Brexit are similar.

of course, BT had none of that, and a few months later they realised they can't actually just walk away all high and mighty. of course, they still believe they were right, and that of course they're absolutely right with Brexit as well