If there is a second referendum ...

Herzlos

Imagine travelling over Europe and Paris, London, Rome all being the same. Same food, same scenery

That's sort of already the case. Beyond landmarks everything is fairly similar. Outside of the Louvre an art museum in Paris is more or less the same as an art museum in Rome.
Most of the tourist attractions are similar castles and cathedrals. You can find Irish bars pretty much anywhere.

There may be a subtle feel and more local food stiffs catered for, but it's already pretty European.

i think thats what a lot of people want

I think very few people want it and it's just not going to happen. We've been a united kingdom for centuries and still can't settle on what a sandwich sized loaf of bread is called from one old kingdom to another.

Filo25

wunferall wrote: »

Links for that please?

You know the bit you quoted yourself about Priti Patel saying we should be using the forecasts of economic and food disruption to put pressure on Ireland....

It wasn't that long ago, I'm surprised you have forgotten.

wunferall

Filo25 wrote: »

You know the bit you quoted yourself about Priti Patel saying we should be using the forecasts of economic and food disruption to put pressure on Ireland....

It wasn't that long ago, I'm surprised you have forgotten.

*sigh*

Again, I said why should they not be used, NOT that I believed them.
That's why you can't provide a link to say I agree with experts in this case I suppose.

Is it common to have difficulty with basic comprehension?
Do you really not understand the difference between "prominent Leavers are ok with experts" (thanks for calling me "prominent" BTW) and "She makes a very valid point." when she does.
Remainers have been using obviously-flawed predictions since before the referendum so why not us?
Which relates to my still-unanswered question.

Try re-reading what I posted, then your point might not appear so
obviously incorrect.
Mind you, it does seem to be the habit of so many remainers that at least you are not alone.

Herzlos

It happens with literally every poll or article - if it's pro brexit it's waved about and if it's anti brexit it's shot down as an opinion piece or polling being inaccurate. Except for the one on the previous page for some reason.

Arklight

If there's going to be any food shortages it'll be in the country that isn't self sufficient in food that's abandoning it's part in the giant trade bloc to put up barriers that only isolate it from everyone else.

Although the rioting and panicking at Tesco's as Leave voters realise that supplies of Pringles are drying up will be quite entertaining.

Pound

cogito wrote: »

If there were to be a second referendum, remain should not be an option. That question has already been asked and answered.

I completely agree, the referendum on EU membership in 1975 should stand!

kabayiri

Filo25 wrote: »

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It is actually genuinely pretty sad how the handling of Brexit has managed to degrade Anglo-Irish relations when they were probably at the best they had ever been in the period before this process began.
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Sentimental hogwash.

I let Ireland look after their own interests. I'm only interested in a win for us, whatever the cost.

The EU were willing to use NI as a pawn in the power play. They did it well too. We should do the same with ROI.

Arklight

kabayiri wrote: »

Sentimental hogwash.

I let Ireland look after their own interests. I'm only interested in a win for us, whatever the cost.

The EU were willing to use NI as a pawn in the power play. They did it well too. We should do the same with ROI.

It's literally like you think it's 1915.

Yes lets send in the Black and Tans...

Herzlos

Can you elaborate on the EU using NI as a pawn? I'm not sure I see it.

phillw

ukcarper wrote: »

I see we have another arrogant poster who seems to think the way forward is to insult people who don't agree with them.

Yes, you are arrogant ukcarper. You insulted him for not agreeing with you.

cogito wrote: »

If there were to be a second referendum, remain should not be an option. That question has already been asked and answered.

Does passive aggressiveness have a place in politics though?

wymondham wrote: »

What's the point in another referendum? The Government haven't carried out the will of the people who voted in the first one..... why would another make any difference, unless the outcome is the one they were expecting? best of 3?

I do agree, the damage of brexit hasn't occurred yet. So if you're still thinking that it's ok because it's all just project fear, then you won't have changed your mind. I think we should go hard brexit, because then everyone will be begging for a new referendum.

THE_Terry_Urr wrote: »

The country will not collapse if we leave without a deal - and as a bonus we'll be £39 billion PLUS better off. That should go a long way towards solving whatever minor difficulties a no deal Brexit might cause.

It's impossible that we'll have a surplus if we leave without a deal. It's unlikely we'll have a surplus even if we leave with a deal. The cost of building up the regulatory frameworks will eat into the contributions as we'd devolved a lot of that to the EU. Without the EU subsidies and grants coming back, it's going to be really tough.

Then there is sterling crashes (if you don't think this will happen, then why not??)
The import duties
The extra costs of transporting food into the country

Although you can be assured that no matter what happens, Jacob Rees Mogg & Boris Johnson will be fine. So it's all worth it.