If there is a second referendum ...

adindas

PhilE wrote: »

Yes mate, the EU are having a crash. Look, Mercedes just went bankrupt. And the East Europeans got deported. And the NHS has been saved. Britain is pure Anglo Saxon again. The Empire has risen. England wins the world cup.

This is the mental landscape of a Brexiter. Completely in la la land. Laughing stock of the civilized world.

Deutsche Bank toxic derivative losses

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-29/imf-deutsche-bank-poses-greatest-risk-global-financial-system

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5484052/deutsche-bank-toxic-derivative-losses&highlight=deutsche+bank

"the bank with the single largest derivative exposure is not located in the US at all, but in the heart of Europe, and its name, as some may have guessed by now, is Deutsche Bank. The amount in question? €55,605,039,000,000. Which, converted into USD at the current EURUSD exchange rate amounts to $72,842,601,090,000.... Or roughly $2 trillion more than JPMorgan's."

EUR 55 trillion euros is a hell amount of money. Let the remoaners bail them out ...

In about a decade time (or more than a few decades) you will start witnessing people are saying thanks god UK were leaving the EU.

The same thing where you could now see people area saying thanks god UK was not joining Euro in the first instance. See who is laughing now ....

PhilE

The Brexit song.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AIPD8qHhtVU

Herzlos

Takedap wrote: »

Although even as an ardent Remainer, I would probably think again if the terms of rejoining meant that we would have to adopt the Euro & accept being part of the Schengen area.

Absolutely, if we rejoin we'll be pressured to take the Euro within a few years, and join Schengen, like any other new member will. Will that be a better deal that whatever brexit is? Almost certainly, yes.


I don't like the currency union, I'm fine with Schengen (it's pretty convenient, really). Would I take both to rejoin? Yup.

LHW99

though you could argue that the over 65s, the only group to have a majority for Leave, are going to be far more insulated from Brexit than anyone else

Sorry hertzlos - all groups over 45 had a majority to remain according to ipsos, and for men only, it was groups over 35
https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-uk/how-britain-voted-2016-eu-referendum

Herzlos

LHW99 wrote: »

Sorry hertzlos - all groups over 45 had a majority to remain according to ipsos, and for men only, it was groups over 35
https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-uk/how-britain-voted-2016-eu-referendum

Weird, I'd seen polling results that say different. I thought it was yougov but they have a different banding and have age 50+ as leaving
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2016/06/27/how-britain-voted

As they say, lies, damn lies and statistics.

LHW99

Herzlos wrote: »

Weird, I'd seen polling results that say different. I thought it was yougov but they have a different banding and have age 50+ as leaving
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2016/06/27/how-britain-voted

As they say, lies, damn lies and statistics.

Indeed, not to mention the graphing of data in a large majority of media sources.

BobQ

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

The referendum was binding because they said they would do as the people asked.

It does not matter what politicians said (350m for NHS was not true either). The Referendum was conducted in accordance with the law which stated it was advisory.

J_Nostin

BobQ wrote: »

It does not matter what politicians said (350m for NHS was not true either). The Referendum was conducted in accordance with the law which stated it was advisory.

Yes it was!

It has been all over the news in the not too distant past you know. The Spectator said: "£350 million for the NHS: How the Brexit bus pledge is coming true" and the BBC headlines were: "NHS funding: Theresa May unveils £20bn boost".
Grumble and whinge all you like but the fact is that the extra funding (as seen on the side of a red bus) has now been promised.
:T
Why and how I care not a bit. It has been promised. You might as well try to argue that grass isn't green as argue that the funding promise was untrue.


As for "advisory", the PM then very clearly said that this once-in-a-lifetime vote would be honoured AND our MP's agreed with 498 out of 612 voting to honour the vote by implementing Article 50.
So you are one of a very small minority that objects, thankfully mostly only in places like this where your real impact is close to zero.

AlanP_2

J_Nostin wrote: »

Yes it was!

It has been all over the news in the not too distant past you know. The Spectator said: "£350 million for the NHS: How the Brexit bus pledge is coming true" and the BBC headlines were: "NHS funding: Theresa May unveils £20bn boost".
Grumble and whinge all you like but the fact is that the extra funding (as seen on the side of a red bus) has now been promised.
:T
Why and how I care not a bit. It has been promised. You might as well try to argue that grass isn't green as argue that the funding promise was untrue.


As for "advisory", the PM then very clearly said that this once-in-a-lifetime vote would be honoured AND our MP's agreed with 498 out of 612 voting to honour the vote by implementing Article 50.
So you are one of a very small minority that objects, thankfully mostly only in places like this where your real impact is close to zero.

As we haven't left the EU yet then the £350M that we will save by not being members is neither true nor untrue at the moment it is still what it always was - a political catchphrase.

The present government promising an extra 20bn is not related or relevant to the point being made.

StevieJ

LHW99 wrote: »

Sorry hertzlos - all groups over 45 had a majority to remain according to ipsos, and for men only, it was groups over 35
https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-uk/how-britain-voted-2016-eu-referendum

All groups over 45 had a majority to Remain? Not sure about that.