How to get more MPG out of a Ford Fiesta Ecoboost

Scrapit

DoaM wrote: »

Would you prefer written emphasis to be in bold text instead? Or was the reason for mid-sentence capitalisation beyond your comprehension?

(I see a pattern forming).

No preference really, both are equally comedic.

Scrapit

Herzlos wrote: »

You're right, and we have absolutely no need to believe you either. We're just correcting the terrible advice you gave the OP. Turning off the stop/start to save fuel is a bad idea unless someone can convince us otherwise.

In your opinion terrible advise. In mine, sound. The OP can judge for them selves. And hey, I'm not trying to convince anyone. After all I know what works for me. Next week I'll test again and see what happens.;)

almillar

but it is concerning you. Odd that.
Even if it was bad advice-which it's not, it could be tested quickly and reversed even quicker if not found to your advantage

I'm (and others on the thread are) concerned that you're giving out had advice. You and some work colleagues have convinced yourselves of something, but you've not shared much testing data, like what car/engine you have.

Of course you've missed the point that the increased fuel use I suspect (But don't know or more importantly, even care) is probbably due to the restarting as opposed to the shut down

No I haven't missed the point, I understand that some fuel is used in restarting the car. And it's been discussed on this thread, that cars with stop/start are fitted with big batteries, and their engines start very efficiently. - how long does the engine need to be off, to be efficient. 8 secs, 10 secs, 3 mins (as your internet person said) or never, as you seem to claim.


I'll use italics for emphasis in future, don't know how amusing that will be.

Scrapit

almillar wrote: »

I'm (and others on the thread are) concerned that you're giving out had advice. You and some work colleagues have convinced yourselves of something, but you've not shared much testing data, like what car/engine you have.
What difference does it make what car or engine I have make? The OP hasn't either and therefore we know we share the same manufacturer. And by convinced you mean proven;)






No I haven't missed the point, I understand that some fuel is used in restarting the car. And it's been discussed on this thread, that cars with stop/start are fitted with big batteries, and their engines start very efficiently. - how long does the engine need to be off, to be efficient. 8 secs, 10 secs, 3 mins (as your internet person said) or never, as you seem to claim.
what does it matter? The OP hasn't asked that and a driver is unable to influence the traffic around them

I'll use italics for emphasis in future, don't know how amusing that will be.

Equally, did you Google the memes?

almillar

What difference does it make what car or engine I have make? The OP hasn't either and therefore we know we share the same manufacturer. And by convinced you mean proven;)

It really does matter what car it is. You've both got 'Ford Ecoboost' is all we know, I think. That covers quite a lot of years and models of engine. I doubt they've all got exactly the same. Many people were convinced the world was flat, until they were proven wrong.

what does it matter? The OP hasn't asked that and a driver is unable to influence the traffic around them

They asked how to get more MPG. You said switch off Stop/Start. A blanket statement. You can't influence the traffic, the Stop/Start system can't see it, but you can override it. I'm asking you, instead of 'turn it off', how long the engine needs to be stopped, to be efficient. So far you have expressed an opinion that stop start is completely useless, no matter what.

lockedout69

Inspired by scrapit, I did some tests over the weekend.
He's right in what he says, I tried leaving my car running when i got home and I am now convinced it used less fuel than switching it off, something I got in the habit of doing since passing my test many years ago.

That's it never switching off my car ever again, the only problem is knowing what to do with all the fuel i am saving.

Scrapit

lockedout69 wrote: »

Inspired by scrapit, I did some tests over the weekend.
He's right in what he says, I tried leaving my car running when i got home and I am now convinced it used less fuel than switching it off, something I got in the habit of doing since passing my test many years ago.

That's it never switching off my car ever again, the only problem is knowing what to do with all the fuel i am saving.

How do you plan to stockpile all the excess?

AdrianC

You just need to drain it all out every morning, before the tank overflows everywhere.

Scrapit

almillar wrote: »

It really does matter what car it is. You've both got 'Ford Ecoboost' is all we know, I think. That covers quite a lot of years and models of engine. I doubt they've all got exactly the same. Many people were convinced the world was flat, until they were proven wrong.some still are. Although what that or they have to do with fuel economy is anyone's guess. You've got as much detail off me as the OP has given, also known as sufficient.





They asked how to get more MPG. You said switch off Stop/Start. A blanket statement. You can't influence the traffic, the Stop/Start system can't see it, but you can override it. I'm asking you, instead of 'turn it off', how long the engine needs to be stopped, to be efficient. So far you have expressed an opinion that stop start is completely useless, no matter what.switching it off saves me money. That is a blanket statement. But it's also a fact too. So what do you want? A break down of my route, time of day, over taking manouvers? Why o why you would expect this is beyond anyone. Yet we accept the mpg of manufacturers and further the findings of those on honest John. The savings are what they are,
You want a break down of it, do the test your self. It's not my role to satisfy you.

Getting a bit circular this, the advise still and will always stand.

almillar

some still are. Although what that or they have to do with fuel economy is anyone's guess. You've got as much detail off me as the OP has given, also known as sufficient.

I was pointing out the difference between being convinced of something, and proving something. I didn't emphasise anything last time for fear of being part of a meme. The OP is asking a question, you provided blanket advice - 'turn it off'. You say it works for you, fine. Saying it'll work for OP, just because they have a 'Ford Ecoboost' is just bad advice. Your experience with your car, and your refusal to back it up, doesn't prove anything to me. Lockedout69, however, seems to think you're onto something.

switching it off saves me money. That is a blanket statement. But it's also a fact too. So what do you want? A break down of my route, time of day, over taking manouvers?

Blanket statement, fine. The blanket advice is what I didn't like. I don't need that breakdown, since all we're talking about is stop/start, so all we need to know is how long you spend stopped in traffic. How long? How often? How do you save fuel in this situation by running the engine, instead of letting the car have the option to switch it off?

Yet we accept the mpg of manufacturers and further the findings of those on honest John

The tests are done under lab conditions, unlike yours. Whatever the figures are, they did happen. I would use both these figures, and Honest John figures. The mistake people usually make is thinking they drive economically, when they're actually stuck driving around a town. They key to knowing your MPG vs the Euro tests, is to find out where you are on the Urban/Combined/Extra Urban scale in your current car. If the combined figure for your current car is 30MPG, and you get 30MPG, don't go looking at the extra-urban figure, you're misleading yourself.

You want a break down of it, do the test your self. It's not my role to satisfy you.

As I've said, I drive/drove stop/start cars. I've done the test. An engine not running uses zero fuel. A running engine uses some. You appear to disagree with this.