CCJ against Paypal

Comms69

Whiteneyberry wrote: »

Paypal won't 'give' you a CCJ, a CCJ just means a court has made a judgment against you. So if Paypal take you to court and you lose, you have a CCJ.

sorry but that is not true.


You have a CCJ registered for failing to pay whatever the court orders.


Losing in court does not, should not (and never will) give rise to a CCJ

Comms69

No-one seems to have asked; so I will.


Who did you sue?


'PayPal' isn't a legal entity, here or in the rest of the EU.


Whilst your CCJ is enforceable anywhere in the EU; it is only against assets of the named defendant.

waamo

Comms69 wrote: »

No-one seems to have asked; so I will.


Who did you sue?


'PayPal' isn't a legal entity, here or in the rest of the EU.


Whilst your CCJ is enforceable anywhere in the EU; it is only against assets of the named defendant.

I would have thought it's against PayPal (Europe) Ltd but unfortunately the op doesn't seem to want to update the thread which is a shame.

Comms69

waamo wrote: »

I would have thought it's against PayPal (Europe) Ltd but unfortunately the op doesn't seem to want to update the thread which is a shame.

That's what I would also assume.


But no guarantees - especially with people inexperienced in the court system

DoaM

Comms69 wrote: »

Losing in court does not, should not (and never will) give rise to a CCJ

/pedant-mode-ON
That's not technically correct. If you lose in court you get a CCJ ... the clue is in the name - County Court Judgement.

What you meant to say was that the CCJ is only registered after the time allowed for payment has expired. Once it is registered it appears on your credit file - if you pay in time then it isn't registered and it's as if it hadn't existed.

Pedantic, I know.

Comms69

DoaM wrote: »

/pedant-mode-ON
That's not technically correct. If you lose in court you get a CCJ ... the clue is in the name - County Court Judgement.

What you meant to say was that the CCJ is only registered after the time allowed for payment has expired. Once it is registered it appears on your credit file - if you pay in time then it isn't registered and it's as if it hadn't existed.

Pedantic, I know.

Well indeed. But yes I accept the (minor) correction

glennstar

Am I the only one wondering why PayPal has refused to release the funds? They process thousands upon thousands of transactions daily without an issue. This one Joe turns up and says they have refused to pay and 4/5s of the population jump on the band waggon providing advice without asking why this situation has arisen in the first case.

Also... there is quite a lot of, you have a CCJ in the UK, Hazar!!! Only not really...

to enforce it in any EU country, you must ask the court in the country where you seek enforcement to issue a declaration of enforceability. Once you have this declaration, you must then use the enforcement mechanisms of the EU country where you seek enforcement.

So nothing like most of the advice herein!!

waamo

glennstar wrote: »

Am I the only one wondering why PayPal has refused to release the funds? They process thousands upon thousands of transactions daily without an issue. This one Joe turns up and says they have refused to pay and 4/5s of the population jump on the band waggon providing advice without asking why this situation has arisen in the first case.

Also... there is quite a lot of, you have a CCJ in the UK, Hazar!!! Only not really...



So nothing like most of the advice herein!!

You may well be the only one wondering why PayPal have acted as they have. At this point it seems irrelevant. The op has obtained a ccj so it's an academic question.

I have no idea what your second paragraph is on about.

As for enforcing in another EU country I don't believe that has been particularly discussed. The advice so far has been about enforcing in the U.K.

I'm not really sure of your point?

unholyangel

glennstar wrote: »

Am I the only one wondering why PayPal has refused to release the funds? They process thousands upon thousands of transactions daily without an issue. This one Joe turns up and says they have refused to pay and 4/5s of the population jump on the band waggon providing advice without asking why this situation has arisen in the first case.

Also... there is quite a lot of, you have a CCJ in the UK, Hazar!!! Only not really...



So nothing like most of the advice herein!!

There are many people who have had problems with paypal, not just "this one joe".

The back story may be of interest or completely boring but as a CCJ has been awarded, its purely academic. However I know due to money laundering laws, companies occasionally require ID verification which fit in with what the OP says. Many genuine and honest people are caught up in these - anyone moving any significant sum of money is likely to have experienced it at some point.

Unless of course you're accusing the OP of criminal activity, which would be a bit hypocritical given your jumping to conclusions comment and particularly because the standard of proof required in law for criminal wrongdoing is much higher than that of civil wrongdoing.


You also seem to have a different impression of the replies from myself. Rather than a "you have a CCJ in the UK, huzzah!!" (which is what I presume you meant by hazar), there only seems to be two replies saying that yes, judgement can be enforced in the EU (the rest seem to be discussing nuances). But that doesn't conflict with what you've posted and nor do either of those posts make it seem like the CCJ is a golden ticket.

dekaspace

I know myself going back 11 years ago now Paypal held about £700 from me when I sold a lot of things when I was downsizing from a flat, and moving hundreds of miles away for Uni and just had a small room as they classed me as not sure exact wording, not a business but a reseller or something and wanted me to provide receipts for everything I sold to prove it belonged to me, but to be fair the funds were released after 6 months.