Halloween: What are you giving Trick or Treaters?

tain

PasturesNew wrote: »

But that's precisely what some people with children are expecting the rest of the country to do .... they're doing the "demanding"... again.

It's not something everybody's done, it's not something everybody does, there are lots of local variations on what people do/don't do ... pumpkins, lights, posters..... who knows what goes on out there, in any one area. Nor could anybody outside of "the local yummy mummy clique" possibly know what this year's "Trend" to do is!

Those who want to drag their kids out in the cold/dark, begging, are "expecting everyone else to stop what they're doing" ... to hide away, turn lights off, lock doors/gates etc ... just because a few want to live differently.

That's a misunderstanding of how society works. One is enjoying something that affects other people, the other is demanding that people cannot enjoy anything unless it has zero consequence on anyone else's life.

And as I said many times but it's not being addressed: you know that this night is going to come, and you can take measures to ensure your own enjoyment isn't breached. I understand you disagree with the principles, but if you're not willing to help yourself either, then why should anyone else?

Thankfully, most people don't live by that logic - society functions by people giving and taking, making allowances and giving respect to other people's enjoyment. It makes for good neighbourhoods.

tain

Pollycat wrote: »

That's a pretty poor analogy. It's nothing like that.

I expect people not to come traipsing to my door unless they are expressly invited.

I really can't see how you think that's wrong.
Because it isn't.

So the festival one - how is that not exactly the same? You have the right to drive down the road unimpeded by some festival you didn't ask for. How dare they change things up and inconvenience you.

And that is a total untruth. You don't expect it, because otherwise you wouldn't be here arguing about it. You DO expect people to knock at your door tonight. It's happened in our society for decades.

Halloween isn't optional. You may hate it, disagree with it, and scream to high heavens once a year over it. But it isn't optional, and it very much is expected. Unfortunately for you, millions of people enjoy it, so it is here to stay.

If you don't choose to participate, then your other options are to either try and maximise your chance of a peaceful night, or not to.

Also this right that you have to never have anyone ever knock at your door - I'd be very interested to find out what law you think that comes under. If you have an unlocked gate, it is accepted within law that someone can approach your house to communicate with you. If you express to them that you wish for them to leave your property, then it becomes trespassing and illegal. You should probably put a note or something on the gate to express this wish.

Marvel1

I prefer kids knocking once a year than adults begging to sign up for monthly charity donations.

Ergates

Pollycat wrote: »

I really don't see why I should have to go to the trouble to put signs up to tell people I don't want them on my property.

Because how else are they to know that you don't want them on your property? Are they psychic?

Pollycat wrote: »

That's a pretty poor analogy. It's nothing like that.

I expect people not to come traipsing to my door unless they are expressly invited.

I really can't see how you think that's wrong.
Because it isn't.

You can expect that all you like, but unless you put up clear signage and/or a physical barrier, then people *do* have the right to "traipse" up to your door and knock.

Pollycat wrote: »

No.
I live in a country where my property is my property and hordes of kids - accompanied or not - do not have the right to wander down my drive uninvited.

If you live in the UK then, no, you don't, and yes, they do - unless you expressly tell them to leave.

powerful_Rogue

tain wrote: »

So the festival one - how is that not exactly the same? You have the right to drive down the road unimpeded by some festival you didn't ask for. How dare they change things up and inconvenience you.

And that is a total untruth. You don't expect it, because otherwise you wouldn't be here arguing about it. You DO expect people to knock at your door tonight. It's happened in our society for decades.

Halloween isn't optional. You may hate it, disagree with it, and scream to high heavens once a year over it. But it isn't optional, and it very much is expected. Unfortunately for you, millions of people enjoy it, so it is here to stay.

If you don't choose to participate, then your other options are to either try and maximise your chance of a peaceful night, or not to.

Also this right that you have to never have anyone ever knock at your door - I'd be very interested to find out what law you think that comes under. If you have an unlocked gate, it is accepted within law that someone can approach your house to communicate with you. If you express to them that you wish for them to leave your property, then it becomes trespassing and illegal. You should probably put a note or something on the gate to express this wish.

Your comments show everything that is wrong with certain sections of society.

Your analogies are rubbish. Who said you have the right to drive down the road unimpeded? Everyone knows that you mayhave to deal with traffic/accidents/road closures etc.

I can walk down the street and someone can take a photo of me. Nothing can be done about it because its a public place. Stand in my garden taking photos of me through my window and that's a different story - Get the picture? (Boom Boom)

DigForVictory

Halloween: What are you giving Trick or Treaters?

Absolutely no encouragement.

tain

powerful_Rogue wrote: »

Your comments show everything that is wrong with certain sections of society.

Your analogies are rubbish. Who said you have the right to drive down the road unimpeded? Everyone knows that you mayhave to deal with traffic/accidents/road closures etc.

I can walk down the street and someone can take a photo of me. Nothing can be done about it because its a public place. Stand in my garden taking photos of me through my window and that's a different story - Get the picture? (Boom Boom)

Traffic and accidents are the same as a summer festival?

Halloween is a festival, just instead of road closures it has trick or treating. Both impose themselves on people who don't want to be imposed on.

powerful_Rogue

tain wrote: »

Traffic and accidents are the same as a summer festival?

Halloween is a festival, just instead of road closures it has trick or treating. Both impose themselves on people who don't want to be imposed on.

Nonsesne. Road closures are advertised well in advance so people can organise alternative routes. Likewise, if I don't need to or want to go out I wont be affected by the road closures. Seriously your anology doesn't work.

System

We have dressed up the house with carved pumpkins on the garage roof, put red filters over the front door sensor light, put out the fire pit (unlit) as a witches coaldren, fun warning banners over the windows, used one of the garden spot lights with a red filter to shine up the house, cobwebs over the gate and hedges and used a bluetooth speaker to play theme music from 'This is Halloween from Nightmare before Xmas'. It cost us about £15, and most can be reused for next year

We don't have children yet, both in our early 30s but how can you not enjoy a chance to make a kids night by letting them dress up in costumes, giving them some treats and showing a sense of community spirit

Round our way if you don't have a pumpkin out then they won't come to your door, we didn't realise this last year so missed out. I think its a great idea the local schools have told the kids as it avoids unwanted door knocking especially for vulnerable people

Each to their own, everyone has their own reasons for doing it or not doing it

Blackbeard_of_Perranporth

I will be inn the gym, then the emporium as I watch all the evil tack products reduced in price. As for pumpkins, these are a waste of food, and arable land while people use food banks in the UK!