Wembley Stadium Retail Park

thepeopleschamp

Hi
I wanted some advice on a PCN issued recently by UKPP at Wembley Stadium Retail Park. The PCN was received through the post and issued as we had exceeded the 90 minutes limit (entered the parking area at 09:56 on the 07.09.2018 and exited at 11:55)
I appealed online through their website using a template letter provided in the Newbie Forum and as expected it has been rejected. I contacted Lidl customer service on social media, email and they said that they cant help as it is a retail park and I need to speak to the landowner or appeal the notice via POPLA.
On the response from UKPP there isn't an option to appeal to POPLA only through IAS

I've been given following options as stated on their email correspondence:

You have now reached the end of our internal appeals procedure and have a number of options:

1. Pay the Parking Charge Notice at the prevailing price of £60 within 14 days. Please note that after this time you will lose the chance to pay the discounted rate and the full amount of £100 will become payable.

2. If you believe this decision is incorrect, you are entitled to appeal to the Independent Appeals Service (IAS). Please be advised that if you opt for independent arbitration of your case and are unsuccessful, the full amount of £100 will become payable. In order to appeal, you will need your parking charge number, your vehicle registration and the date the charge was originally issued. Appeals must be submitted to the IAS within 21 days of the date of this letter. Please visit https://www.theias.org for full details.

3. If you choose to do nothing, we will seek to recover the monies owed to us via our debt recovery procedures and may proceed with Court action against you.

The Independent Appeals Service (https://www.theIAS.org) provides an Alternative Dispute Resolution scheme for disputes of this type. As you have complied with our internal appeals procedure you may use, and we will engage with, the IAS Standard Appeals Service providing you lodge an appeal to them within 21 days of this rejection.

Should I just ignore the email they have sent or ask for a POPLA code?

onlyfoolsandparking

POPLA not available to you only IAS and that is a bigger scam than the parking scammers themselves so NO to appealing to those scumbags.


Your on ignore mode now until the usual debt begging letters come through from the usual motley crue: DRP, Zenith, maybe BW lying legal, SCS and if your lucky Gallstones (Gladstones)


Only reply to a genuine 30 day LBA/LBCCC with a rebuttal from the newbies section.


If you want to fight and not pay the scammers read plenty on here.

Coupon-mad

Ignore them, same as any IPC firm thread you care to read. There is no appeal, there was no appeal and IAS is not a valid/fair appeal option anyway!

You had no POPLA option; Lidl were stupid. why not reply and tell them they were wrong - there is NO independent appeal, no POPLA, and will they NOW ask the landowner to cancel it?

Come back if they try a small claim, and you can see how likely that is by looking at post #2 of the NEWBIES thread, all about court stage and where it also explains where to check with the BMPA/PADI website, for any PPC and how often they try court.

Posters here, with no legal experience, win court defences almost every time.

Just ignore them now, and any daft debt collection demands. Laugh at the letters but keep them in a file marked scam. Search the forum for each letter you get, by name of the sender, you will find everything has already been discussed 10 times over every week!

Court claims are shown in the sticky thread, along with defences, and everyone has a case against scumbag parking firms.

No risk, no CCJ, no bailiffs, nothing as long as you do not ignore an actual court claim, and as long as you write to tell your pet scumbag IPC parking firm(!) if you move house within 6 years...to avoid the nasty surprise these scam firms dish out to people by serving claims, years later, at an old address.

fisherjim

You can only appeal to POPLA if they are members of the BPA as they have told you, so POPLA is out of the question.


As the newbies thread tells you appeals to the IAS are a waste of time they are scammers.


It's wait and see time now, if they try a court claim it'e quite defendable, it's all in the newbies thread.

thepeopleschamp

Thanks for the rwaponses. Yes I read about IAS being a scammer just wasn't sure if I could appeal via POPLA but you have answered that. Annoyed by Lidl as we had a couple of email exchanges but they ended up saying they can't do much. Even spoke to store manager and he said they were able to before but can't now.

Coupon-mad

So write to the landowner of the retail park - Google the place.

beamerguy

"The Independent Appeals Service (https://www.theIAS.org) provides an Alternative Dispute Resolution scheme for disputes of this type."

What a load of old junk UKPP spout.

Pigs will fly ...... the IAS set up by Gladstones solicitors
is a TOTAL SCAM.

UKPP love them and this scam as they already know that
this "Alternative Dispute Resolution scheme" will reject
your appeal anyway

Nothing to lose, why not try this scam operation, come back here
with their reply ..... at least you can show a judge you tried

Government and the courts already know all about
the Gladstones scam anyway

thepeopleschamp

Looking at this thread from a few years ago, it seems the retail park used to be managed by another company - http://forums.pepipoo.com/lofiversion/index.php/t93978.html
UKPP must have taken over recently.
Here is how the sign posts look now
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Amt0MV81uWtsvap39qcUMz6PXUN-RQ

Coupon-mad

Unreadable drivel that no-one notices when shopping, and no-one takes to be a contract.

Same as in the Beavis case, high up signs that nobody sees, only the Supreme Court Judges ludicrously believed otherwise.

thepeopleschamp

Just to provide a further update, I received a letter today from DRP Ltd asking for a £160 payment. If it isn't settled by 28/11/18 then they have threatened court action and have also mentioned about the SC case in November 2015 where a parking operator took a motorist to court and won.

Redx

DRP can be ignored, they cannot instigate court action

read the letter again, they actually say they will advise the claimant to issue a court claim, because DRP cannot threaten anything at all
the court case they refer to was the BEAVIS case, google it