VCS Letter Before Claim - CASE DISMISSED

Umkomaas

Turnip00 said:

I'll have to do that this evening when I'm back at home. Would you advise blocking out certain details for data protection etc. 

If VCS haven't done so, there's no need. 

Snakes_Belly

We need to see the details of the contract. It will appear in the WS. 

You say that it is not signed anyway. 

It should say in the contract whether the PPC can pursue claims through the court. 

Snakes_Belly

Where is the pub car park that the transgression took place?

D_P_Dance

Have you read this?

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/law-and-courts/legal-system/small-claims/making-a-small-claim/

Turnip00

The Airport pub, Manchester.  
VCS have not provided the contract,  they haven't given me anything, no evidence of signage, no more detail. I had the original NTK and a follow up reminder.  I have asked on three occasions for this. 
It does state they can pursue via courts(or similar),  it also states they'll comply with their association's code of practice, they haven't.  

D_P_Dance

The PPCs COP has the worth of an eggcup full of lukewarm urine imo.

Snakes_Belly

I made the mistake of thinking that the Codes of Practice carried some weight. They are not worth the paper that they are written on. Hopefully the new Code of Practice will carry a lot more weight.

Judges tend not to pay much attention to the Codes of Practice. They focus more on the contract.

Redx

Turnip00 said:

The Airport pub, Manchester.  
VCS have not provided the contract,  they haven't given me anything, no evidence of signage, no more detail. I had the original NTK and a follow up reminder.  I have asked on three occasions for this. 
It does state they can pursue via courts(or similar),  it also states they'll comply with their association's code of practice, they haven't.  

Classic sc#m site , I believe Robinson's brewery own it , check that contract and contact the brewery too

Check recent threads because I think Smart or someone else are contracted now

Snakes_Belly

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3641288,-2.2585759,3a,37.5y,141.22h,87.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAlo0Z634v7gmXzTdRKLzow!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en-US

Signage does not look particularly good but does say that there is a tariff. 

Double yellow lines on entry to the car park from ring road so would not be able to stop to see the signage.  

Turnip00

Snakes_Belly said:

I made the mistake of thinking that the Codes of Practice carried some weight. They are not worth the paper that they are written on. Hopefully the new Code of Practice will carry a lot more weight.

Judges tend not to pay much attention to the Codes of Practice. They focus more on the contract.

So if the contracts states they will adhere to the COP but haven't,  in my black and white world, they have voided the contract.  It doesn't seem right that you can pick and choose which parts of a contract apply.