The job centre are not helping. What to do?

billy2shots

Comms69 wrote: »

OP has £10 for food and toiletries and bills a week.


OP does not want minimum wage full time job which would pay £270(ish) per week


OP prefer to set up business which for 6 months will lose money.


I really don't see how he or she will actually survive!

OP is caring for his disabled wife you incentive so and so yet you expect him to go to work full time??? He has already said his situation means he has to do things a little different.

billy2shots

nicechap wrote: »

I wonder how much time & effort it took the OP to read the 3 pages, dissect the contents and reply individually as they felt appropriate. I also wonder how much time & effort it would be to write a business plan for a micro business. Finally I wonder what the difference is.

I wonder if your sole purpose is to spread negativity and go around threads trying your best to get a cheap laugh from your fellow stooges.

Comms69

billy2shots wrote: »

OP is caring for his disabled wife you incentive so and so yet you expect him to go to work full time??? He has already said his situation means he has to do things a little different.

Running a business is MORE than working full time.


But I'm not expecting him to do anything at all. Simply highlighting the obvious hurdles. How he chooses to survive is upto him, but running a business which will cost him money for 6 months, when he only has £10 a week spare doesn't sound like it's going to do him or his wife any good!

billy2shots

Comms69 wrote: »

Running a business is MORE than working full time.


But I'm not expecting him to do anything at all. Simply highlighting the obvious hurdles. How he chooses to survive is upto him, but running a business which will cost him money for 6 months, when he only has £10 a week spare doesn't sound like it's going to do him or his wife any good!

There are countless businesses that can be run from home meaning someone would be available if their disabled dependent needed them.
Why let facts get in the way of belittling someone though.....

Comms69

billy2shots wrote: »

There are countless businesses that can be run from home meaning someone would be available if their disabled dependent needed them.
Why let facts get in the way of belittling someone though.....

If you say so, I'm sure you have 'countless' examples too...


But no I wasn't belittling anyone. You seem to have a chip on your shoulder.

nicechap

Comms69 wrote: »

Running a business is MORE than working full time.
....

Quite right. Whereas spending time reading & writing responses to forum posts could be better spent drafting a business plan.


Shame the sub-forum's new stalker can't provide any constructive advice to the OP but wants to derail yet another thread with their petty point scoring.

billy2shots

nicechap wrote: »

Quite right. Whereas spending time reading & writing responses to forum posts could be better spent drafting a business plan.


Shame the sub-forum's new stalker can't provide any constructive advice to the OP but wants to derail yet another thread with their petty point scoring.

I've politely asked you to leave me alone on these forums and I have sent you a personal message for the very reason that other people's threads do not get derailed. You have decided to ignore my request and PM because you seem to enjoy being an internet bully.

Comms69

billy2shots wrote: »

I've politely asked you to leave me alone on these forums and I have sent you a personal message for the very reason that other people's threads do not get derailed. You have decided to ignore my request and PM because you seem to enjoy being an internet bully.

You realise you can ignore other posters? It's quite straight forward, you click on the user name and under actions it says 'add to ignore list'.


Best of luck!

nicechap

Comms69 wrote: »

You realise you can ignore other posters? It's quite straight forward, you click on the user name and under actions it says 'add to ignore list'.


Best of luck!

I really doubt they will, they seem to enjoy derailing threads too much.


I do find it amusing that they feel their posts critiquing others should not be critiqued.

Les79

Not_Another_Username wrote: »

marliepanda clearly doesn't understand my situation, otherwise the tone would be completely different.

I do NOT expect something for nothing. Isn't it called investment? Helping somebody to set up in business? The returns, etc.? Obviously you are disgruntled about something. People like you annoy me intensely, so please don't bother posting anything else on this thread.

You came across like you expect something for nothing, through being reluctant to provide a business write-up as requested.

"After being told that I won't qualify for the New Enterprise Allowance scheme to try my new business idea, at least not without submitting a profit and loss forecast and a business plan, which I wouldn't be able to do at this time,"

You are fair game for criticism in that respect so deal with it.

But let's give 4 billion pounds to African countries for the same thing!

Ah! You are referring to the recent news here...

I'm not an expert on politics/world affairs, but I get the impression that this is a tactical investment with Brexit looming so that we encourage stronger trade links with non EU countries who can offer us resources for cheaper/easier than EU countries (especially with how stubborn they have been).

In contrast, the UK job market isn't the main issue right now and so we take a bit of a back seat with business investments.

That being said, sod the 4 billion; you HAVE ACCESS to a fund which will give you money! It is purely because you aren't playing the game that you aren't getting the money, not because of the UK's current overseas policies.

Were you a Brexiteer by any chance? Whether you are or not, I think a bus should be commissioned to help you make your point:

"We send [STRIKE]EU [/STRIKE]Africa's businesses [STRIKE]£350 million[/STRIKE] £77 million* a week."

"Let's fund our [STRIKE]NHS [/STRIKE]UK citizens who don't want to write out business plans instead"

"Vote [STRIKE]Leave [/STRIKE]Leave the world"

*4 billion a year / 52 weeks = 77 mil

For your information, I have worked all my life, until I became a full-time carer from my disabled wife. My situation dictates that I have to do things differently. As things stand, I have £10 per week for food and household goods, toiletries, etc. It's called poverty and I am desperate to do something to get out of this miserable situation. Do you sleep at night? I don't. I'm too wound up with worry about how I am going to manage.

Genuinely sorry to hear about your problems. Have you explored your options as a carer? Pretty sure you get support (money) for that?

Also, what about retirement? That coming up to be an option? If you have worked all your life then presumably you have a pension? I'm a bit too young to know much about how they work, so I haven't a clue but just fielding it out there.

Do you have access to food banks and the likes? Have you looked for a local one?

Have you, instead of writing out huge posts on here, looked for charities who help with this sort of thing? There is support out there for people in poverty. If you are really stuck then please ask and we'll help you find some sources.

Have you been to your GP about the mental health issues?

Any friends or family who can help? Many people would be more than happy to at least buy you the essentials by way of food and toiletries to survive.

Thank you ariarnia. Very helpful. I will see my job coach this week and will try to find out more, but I am really tempted to tell the job centre where to go and go it alone. Thanks for the links too.

May I enquire as to how jibbing off your (presumably) only/main source of income will benefit your situation?

After all this I feel like I am a complete fraud! Out of politeness, I won't say quite how I feel at the moment, but I suppose this is the sort of thing I should expect from a public forum. We all have our differing opinions, but you really should be careful before you make accusations like this as other people might be in a less stable frame of mind than me.

I don't like that last sentence. It suggests that any such self destruction (in whatever way you interpret that as) is due to posters on here...

MAYBE it could be, but upon reviewing the posts on here it is completely the case that such a thought process is entirely wrong. It is probably just by virtue of your situation that you cannot recognise that fact..

"Me: Failed marriage, debt, severe depression, anti-depressants, etc."

Anyways, good luck.