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Landlord claims breach of contract because of SmartMeter
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Throwaway1 wrote: »But then the LL is left with a non smart meter which is what they wanted all along.
What they had was a non-smart meter that could be changed to a smart meter 2 as soon as technology allows, what they are left with is a non smart meter that won't be changed quickly and may incur a cost.I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.0 -
I wonder if he had refused permission would you have been able to take him to court for preventing you getting a cheaper tariff??? Would seem fair
Then again, he has no right to stop you so he needs to suck it up man upAn answer isn't spam just because you don't like it......1 -
Thanks for everyone's answers so far, it's reassuring to see that I am not in the wrong here. For those asking, the old meter wasn't a prepaid one, it was simply an analogue meter.
I am currently waiting for the LL to respond to the TDS dispute - from their emails, it felt like they were trying to avoid that so I mentioned that even if we come to a solution, it needs to be communicated to TDS as the dispute is active...I will post updates in here as I hear back.0 -
diggingdude wrote: »I wonder if he had refused permission would you have been able to take him to court for preventing you getting a cheaper tariff??? Would seem fair
Then again, he has no right to stop you so he needs to suck it up man up
i definitely would have gotten in touch with citizen's advice or shelter to ask about my options...especially since they don't have any solid reason!0 -
diggingdude wrote: »I wonder if he had refused permission would you have been able to take him to court for preventing you getting a cheaper tariff??? Would seem fair
You've missed something - the landlord wasnt preventing her getting a cheaper tariff. She was still perfectly free to swop supplier - as that is something totally unconnected to what style the meter is.0 -
moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »You've missed something - the landlord wasnt preventing her getting a cheaper tariff. She was still perfectly free to swop supplier - as that is something totally unconnected to what style the meter is.
Wrong again. You cannot go on a time of use tariff without a smart meter.0 -
Wrong again. You cannot go on a time of use tariff without a smart meter.
In all the time I've been changing utility suppliers to keep on the cheapest deal, none of the comparison sites have identified a time of use tariff as a deal to consider.I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.0 -
fair enough, i should have asked but the landlord doesn't live in the property...they have a new tenant in so from what i have read, landlords can not refuse a tenant to have a smart meter installed unless they have very good reason. absolutely understand they do not want one in their own home but this is is their letting property so not seeing why they would have objections to it....It's not "his" meter, the landlord doesn't own it. What difference do you think it makes to the landlord whether there's a regular meter or a smart meter in the property?
We rent out a property we intend to move into as our home in the next couple of years. It's in the tenancy agreement that if they want to have Smart meters, they're only to accept SMETS2 meters.
What difference does it make to us as landlords? None at the moment, but it'll be a pain if we end up with 'dumb' meters because the tenant chose to change them.Make £2025 in 2025
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We rent out a property we intend to move into as our home in the next couple of years. It's in the tenancy agreement that if they want to have Smart meters, they're only to accept SMETS2 meters.
What difference does it make to us as landlords? None at the moment, but it'll be a pain if we end up with 'dumb' meters because the tenant chose to change them.
Well you committed the biggest sin of all. Never let out a property with an emotional attachment.
(that clause in the tenancy agreement is unenforceable)0
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