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Landlord claims breach of contract because of SmartMeter

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  • If it's for his flat - then it's his meter - even if it doesnt belong to him.

    Not forgetting - it certainly doesnt belong to the tenant.
  • Comms69
    Comms69 Posts: 14,229 Forumite
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    If it's for his flat - then it's his meter - even if it doesnt belong to him.

    Not forgetting - it certainly doesnt belong to the tenant.

    It’s leased to the account holder....

    So yes it belongs to the tenant.
  • If it's for his flat - then it's his meter - even if it doesnt belong to him.

    You've contradicted yourself very efficiently there.
  • sparkey1
    sparkey1 Posts: 444 Forumite
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    Your landlord cannot decide upon what meter you have, your supply is a contract between you and the supplier... unless the landlord pays the bill.

    He cant stop the meter being changed. It would be an unfair contract term, would void the contract, and could lead to compensation being paid to the tenant if it went to court.

    Your landlord probably doesnt want to pay the electric during void periods.

    As for the comment "If it's for his flat - then it's his meter - even if it doesnt belong to him. Not forgetting - it certainly doesnt belong to the tenant."

    That comment is so wrong. The meter belongs to the company.

    I am a landlord.
  • I've never understood how smart meters actually help you save money.
  • I've never understood how smart meters actually help you save money.

    They just help you to be more conscious of what you're spending each day, and to work out what keeps the spend down and what burns through the pennies!
  • steampowered
    steampowered Posts: 6,176 Forumite
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    edited 13 August 2018 at 11:34PM
    If it's for his flat - then it's his meter - even if it doesnt belong to him.

    Not forgetting - it certainly doesnt belong to the tenant.

    The meter belongs to the energy company. The tenant is normally the one that uses it and is the one that is paying the bills.

    If the landlord wants to control who the energy supplier is and how the meter works - then he needs to be the account holder and pay the bills. It is not reasonable to try and control how tenants get their electricity if they are then ones paying for it.

    If the next tenant doesn't want a smart meter, it is easy enough to disable the smart functionality.

    Although I think you'd have to be pretty daft to want to do that. Getting estimated bills and overpaying (or underpaying and getting a big bill when you read your meter) is a horribly old fashioned way of living. I'm sure when Colour TVs came in plenty of people preferred to stick with the Black & White they were used to.
  • kinger101
    kinger101 Posts: 6,572 Forumite
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    If it's for his flat - then it's his meter - even if it doesnt belong to him.

    Not forgetting - it certainly doesnt belong to the tenant.

    You're in a massive hole. Turn the JCB off.
    "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" - Confucius
  • missbunty
    missbunty Posts: 10 Forumite
    casper_g wrote: »
    Did they state that in writing? They couldn't have made it much easier for the arbitrator/judge to find in your favour!


    yes, they stated it in writing, citing it because they said the TDS would not handle my case since they have not incurred any financial loss, but rather, i have breached my contract.
  • Gers
    Gers Posts: 13,069 Forumite
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    If it's for his flat - then it's his meter - even if it doesnt belong to him.

    Not forgetting - it certainly doesnt belong to the tenant.

    Nope. Still wrong. Very wrong. Not even close to being correct.
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