Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

Svein_Forkbeard

Arklight wrote: »

As the Brexit fanatics won’t win a repeat referendum,

So, what you are saying is anyone who voted to leave and doesn't agree with your outlook on life is a fanatic?

Very strange way of looking at life.

wunferall

mayonnaise wrote: »

I'm not surprised.
An earlier Yougov poll found that half of Leave voters thought that Brexit is worth family members losing their jobs.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/brexit-is-worth-family-members-losing-their-jobs-say-leave-voters-over-65_uk_59806ffae4b00bb8ff3975bb
It' a weird thing, brextremism. :think:

Hello again.
:wave:

Why did you leave the bits out about remainers in your post?
Never mind eh, I will post them here for all to see.

one in five Remain voters would happily see the economy suffer “just to teach Leave voters a lesson”.

One in three Remain voters (34%), said that “significant damage” (to the) economy would be a price worth paying if it meant Brexit was stopped.

It looks like remainerism is a weird thing too.

Arklight

ukcarper wrote: »

I'm not convinced a new referendum would produce a remain result, many people I know voted leave and none have changed their mind. Me personally I would need to know exactly what staying in EU meant as I don't see us being able to stay in on terms we had, also one of the things I've learnt since negotiations begun is EU commission value thier ideals more than the economy's in member states.

No, because their minds were made up and then firmly closed back when Thatcher was banging handbags on tables in the 80s.

There are two generations subsequent to them who are severally, very anti Brexit and now large majority anti Brexit.

It's Generation X that leave have lost, and Generation X that will put the brakes on Brexit. Baby boomers don't quite have the influence they once did.

wunferall

Brexit doom my 'arris!
I'm just back from a long weekend to be faced with the most dreadful news.

July's budget surplus was the biggest for eighteen - yes, eighteen - years.

The UK's foreign exchange grew by a huge 23% between April 2016 and April 2018 to reach $2.7 trillion per day.
For perspective, that compares to the nearest rival (the USA) whose trade was up 11% to $994 billion per day.
Two-fifths of all trades are handled in the UK, meaning that the UK has actually strengthened its' position following the Brexit vote.


Dire news indeed.
:rotfl:



https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-economy-budget/uk-shows-biggest-july-budget-surplus-since-2000-easing-spending-headache-for-hammond-idUKKCN1L60Q5

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-forex-exclusive/exclusive-britain-extends-lead-as-king-of-currencies-despite-brexit-vote-idUKKCN1L61AG

ukcarper

Arklight wrote: »

No, because their minds were made up and then firmly closed back when Thatcher was banging handbags on tables in the 80s.

There are two generations subsequent to them who are severally, very anti Brexit and now large majority anti Brexit.

It's Generation X that leave have lost, and Generation X that will put the brakes on Brexit. Baby boomers don't quite have the influence they once did.

I think you are living in a bubble I don't think there is a large majority in any group that are very anti brexit with the exception of perhaps student age people, and personally I don't think many of the people who didn't vote in previous referendum would vote this time.

Arklight

ukcarper wrote: »

I think you are living in a bubble I don't think there is a large majority in any group that are very anti brexit with the exception of perhaps student age people, and personally I don't think many of the people who didn't vote in previous referendum would vote this time.

Sounds like you are the one in a bubble.

mayonnaise

wunferall wrote: »

July's budget surplus was the biggest for eighteen - yes, eighteen - years.

The UK's foreign exchange grew by a huge 23% between April 2016 and April 2018 to reach $2.7 trillion per day.

You mean we're doing quite well while being a member of the EU?

Filo25

ukcarper wrote: »

I think you are living in a bubble I don't think there is a large majority in any group that are very anti brexit with the exception of perhaps student age people, and personally I don't think many of the people who didn't vote in previous referendum would vote this time.

Even if nobody changes their mind though and there is no change in turnout patterns you would still see a closing of the margin just on the basis of simple demographics, a few years have passed, some older people (predominantly Leave voting ) have died, more younger people (primarily Remain) come onto the electoral roll.

To maintain the margin we would need to see voters from last time becoming more Eurosceptic as they got older, or more favourable turnout patterns for Leave

Thrugelmir

ukcarper wrote: »

I also think a deal could be found that could gain enough support depending on FOM and exactly how much control the EU courts would have.

The EU courts have been fundamental in changing what FOM was agreed to mean at the outset, i.e. the right of workers to travel. Subsequently ruled on benefits, welfare payments, etc etc. If you appoint like minded people to the roles. Then the outcome is guaranteed.

Thrugelmir

Filo25 wrote: »

if the government can't come up with an option better than "No Deal" though I would say a Remain win would probably be a narrow favourite going into the campaign.

There's no option on the table to remain currently. The daily business of the EU hasn't stopped. If the Government and the EU cannot agree then "no deal" is the default. Not an option. The EU has to break ranks eventually. Then the picture will become much clearer.